Re: [alto] a survey of ALTO

Qiao Xiang <xiangq27@gmail.com> Thu, 14 June 2018 01:32 UTC

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Hi Shawn,

I added a column "single/multi domain" in the spreadsheet. I feel this is
important because as we are seeing more and more multi-domain use cases of
ALTO. For starters, there are two active drafts in the WG documenting the
design and deployment of ALTO in multi-domain networks, i.e., Unicorn and
Broker-assisted orchestration. Danny, Christian and I are also working on a
new draft on multi-domain service function chaining with ALTO.


Best
Qiao

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 6:50 AM Shawn Lin <x.shawn.lin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Dawn.
>
> The current setting of this Google Sheets is *"Anyone with the link can
> edit"*. So I think everyone can edit it through that link.
> If anyone has a problem with editing that sheet, please ping me, and I
> will send an invitation:)
>
> Bests,
> Shawn
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 1:07 PM Dawn Chan <dawn_chen_f@hotmail.com
> <dawn_chen_f@hotmail..com>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Shawn,
>>
>> I remember that the document is set privacy, so could you please send an
>> invitation to others?
>>
>> Dawn
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: alto <alto-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Shawn Lin <
>> x.shawn.lin@gmail.com <x..shawn.lin@gmail.com>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:11:53 AM
>> To: Y. Richard Yang
>> Cc: IETF ALTO
>> Subject: Re: [alto] a survey of ALTO
>>
>> Hi Jensen, Vijay, Christian, Qiao, and Richard,
>>
>> Thank you so much for your confirmations and fruitful suggestions!
>>
>> We created a Google Sheets [1] to collect such information. Please feel
>> free to edit or comment on it!
>> The current header of this Google Sheets mainly includes
>> "Paper/Project/RFC Name", "Cited", "Year", "Extend Standard ALTO or not",
>> "How they use ALTO?", "Challenges and Research Opportunities", "Others" and
>> "Catagory".
>>
>> Qiao: Just add NOVA and ORSAP, please see row 124 and 125.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dgbVApnyyiIjbSFp49jSIz3XQHMbmme3WXMQfOZVpY0/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Bests,
>> Shawn
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 6:22 AM Y. Richard Yang <yry@cs.yale.edu<mailto:
>> yry@cs.yale.edu>> wrote:
>> Great suggestion, Christian!
>>
>> Qiao: thanks for pointing out the related work. The IWQoS'17 and ICNP'16
>> work are highly related indeed.
>>
>> Shawn: I will be more than happy to review the addition of the table, as
>> Christian suggested. It can be part of the draft, or you can post such a
>> table on the mailing list for discussions, as IETF uses mailing list as one
>> key venue of discussions.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Richard
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:09 PM Qiao Xiang <xiangq27@gmail.com<mailto:
>> xiangq27@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Christian,
>>
>> Great suggestion! I fully agree. Such a table would be very helpful!
>>
>> Shawn: I understand this is not a complete list. Just a reminder that you
>> should add Kai's IWQoS'17 paper (NOVA) and its previous ICNP'16 poster
>> paper (ORSAP) in the survey. They are based on the ALTO-PV and ALTO-RSA
>> drafts.
>>
>>
>> Best
>> Qiao
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 12:06 PM Christian Esteve Rothenberg
>> <chesteve@dca.fee..unicamp.br<mailto:chesteve@dca..fee.unicamp.br>>
>> wrote:
>> Nice work!
>>
>> In line with Jensen questions, I was going to suggest adding the RFC /
>> draft info to the Implementation details, e.g. Network Map, Cost Map,
>> Unified Property Map, Path Vector.
>> Especially highlighting the proposed extensions would help to identify
>> the need to move these extensions forward to become RFC, and/or
>> eventually be merged, if / after we realize through a proper Table
>> mapping proposed extensions to use case implementations and citations.
>> Such a table could also incorporate the additional requirements
>> suggested by Jensen and altogether contribute to a potential WG
>> recharter.
>>
>> -ch
>> Em seg, 11 de jun de 2018 às 03:32, Jensen Zhang
>> <jingxuan.n.zhang@gmail.com<mailto:jingxuan.n.zhang@gmail.com>> escreveu:
>> >
>> > Hi Shawn,
>> >
>> > Thank you a lot! Also, thank Dawn and Danny. A survey on the current
>> ALTO related works is very helpful.
>> >
>> > I believe your classification for the ALTO use cases is based on the
>> role ALTO plays in the existing system. Do we have any summary of the
>> requirements? All of them use the standard ALTO without any modification or
>> extension? I believe such information is more useful and should be
>> considered in the survey. Because we try to understand what are the
>> essential additional requirements for newer scenarios. It will decide
>> whether we need to recharter the WG.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Jensen
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 1:21 PM Shawn Lin <x.shawn.lin@gmail.com
>> <mailto:x.shawn.lin@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear ALTOers,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> @Dawn, @Danny and I are working on a survey of ALTO. Our goal is to
>> understand what ALTO can already do in the real system, how others use ALTO
>> and the additional requirements for newer applications (like SDN, NFV,
>> Block-chain network) to do the traffic optimization.
>> >>
>> >> Currently, we have a deck of slides and a skeleton of our draft. We
>> had some wonderful discussions with @Richard and @Sabine! So here we would
>> like to share the slides with the WG and get feedback from WG members. I
>> believe it is a good way to summarize the current status and look into the
>> next step :)
>> >>
>> >> The current slides include 6 ALTO implementations (from open source
>> project, academic research, and company production) and 18 use cases (from
>> IETF drafts/slides, papers, and white papers) in 5 categories like below:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ALTO Use Cases
>> >>
>> >>   |
>> >>
>> >>   +--> Information Source
>> >>
>> >>   |     |
>> >>
>> >>   |     +---> Path Selection in MPTS-AR
>> >>
>> >>   |     |
>> >>
>> >>   |     +---> Locate Content in Mobile Edge Cache
>> >>
>> >>   |     |
>> >>
>> >>   |     +---> Virtualized Service Function Chain Placement
>> >>
>> >>   |     |
>> >>
>> >>   |     +---> Intelligent VM Placement
>> >>
>> >>   |     |
>> >>
>> >>   |     +---> Service Placement in IoT
>> >>
>> >>   |
>> >>
>> >>   +--> Ranking Server
>> >>
>> >>   |     |
>> >>
>> >>   |     +---> A Peer Ranking Service for P2P Streaming
>> >>
>> >>   |     |     Information
>> >>
>> >>   |     +---> A Service to Select CDN Surrogate
>> >>
>> >>   |     |
>> >>
>> >>   |     +---> A Service to Select CDN Servers from
>> >>
>> >>   |     |     Different SDN Domains
>> >>
>> >>   |     +---> A Service to Select downstream CDN
>> >>
>> >>   |     |
>> >>
>> >>   |     +---> A Service to Guide the Peer Connection
>> >>
>> >>   |           in  Blockchain
>> >>
>> >>   |
>> >>
>> >>   +--> Network Abstraction
>> >>
>> >>   |     |
>> >>
>> >>   |     +---> Network Abstraction Provider in SDN
>> >>
>> >>   |     |
>> >>
>> >>   |     +---> Topology Abstraction for VPN Scale-out
>> >>
>> >>   |     |     Decisions
>> >>
>> >>   |     +---> ALTO being Used to Solving n2  Problem
>> >>
>> >>   |
>> >>
>> >>   |--> Information Exchanger
>> >>
>> >>   |     |
>> >>
>> >>   |     +---> Network Behaviors Exchanger between
>> >>
>> >>   |           Providers
>> >>
>> >>   |
>> >>
>> >>   +--> Measure Results Interface
>> >>
>> >>         |
>> >>
>> >>         +---> An Interface to Query on the LMAP
>> >>
>> >>               measure results
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> We attach the slides below. You can also access the editable version
>> in Google Slides:
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1aXIZfUjQrSFhkVIUbvt2ouKWqLgGq4kbG-EBmSaZtKo/edit?usp=sharing
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Any comments or suggestions are welcomed and appreciated!
>> >>
>> >> Bests,
>> >> Shawn Lin
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