Re: [alto] ALTO meeting info for Oct. 02, 2019

"Y. Richard Yang" <yry@cs.yale.edu> Wed, 02 October 2019 12:34 UTC

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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2019 08:34:21 -0400
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To: "Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" <sabine.randriamasy@nokia-bell-labs.com>
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Sabine,

Good idea to start with the side meeting/workshop. Please see this Google
doc for the list of questions and the invited/potential participants that I
am aware of:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GWDj8E34lyIKeasNrDgH584VEI7uV4FAy65LOV5j-10/edit?usp=sharing

Below

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 1:56 PM Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia -
FR/Paris-Saclay) <sabine.randriamasy@nokia-bell-labs.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> Would it be possible to start with the side-meeting at IETF 106 ? We need
> to contact potential participants early enough for them to plan their
> participation and agree on a schedule. So we need to prepare some
> invitation text to introduce the context and purpose of the meeting. Below
> is some draft text based on our discussion last Friday, to be updated and
> amended upon your feedback and suggestions tomorrow.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sabine
>
>
>
>
>
> The IETF ALTO WG is planning a 2-3hours meeting with 20-30 participants at
> the IETF 106. The focus is to prepare the evolution of ALTO and explore
> both topics of application-aware networking (AAN) and network-aware
> applications (NAA).
>
>
>
> To this end, we would like to invite a group of speakers willing to share
> their experience and insights about cooperative interactions between
> networks and applications. In particular: given today’s network usage
> trends, where do we identify problems that would be solved  with the help
> of such a cooperation?
>
>
>
> AAN or NAA: what is it? What problems did we address? What did we try?
> What worked? What did not? What is missing ?  What are the changes in
> networks, applications, in research, technology that we need to take into
> account?
>
>
>
> The goal of this meeting is to gather input helping to better identify how
> ALTO evolutions can complement with other IETF protocols or research
> activities. We therefore seek for insights of participants involved in
> network operations, application or cooperation thereof. A fruitful
> meeting would both collect experience and expectations in this field.
>
>
>
> To start with (text to be shortened + completed): ALTO  is addressing the
> need for network-aware applications. It helps addressing issues such as
> unnecessary network costs or performance loss due: to network topology
> agnostic selection of application endpoints such as peers or CDN
> surrogates,  bad timing of connection, poor information on e2e network
> paths (no insight, outdated, too voluminous). What misses is are
> extensions to support applications covering multiple network domains and
> technologies, multiple paths, etc… The changes that we need to consider are
> the prevalence of wireless and cellular networks, 5G multi-technology e2e,
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* alto-weekly-meeting@googlegroups.com <
> alto-weekly-meeting@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Danny Alex Lachos
> Perez
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 01, 2019 6:05 PM
> *To:* IETF ALTO <alto@ietf.org>; alto-weekly-meeting@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* ALTO meeting info for Oct. 02, 2019
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Just a friendly reminder that we will have our weekly meeting this
> Wednesday (*Oct-02*) at *9:30 am US ET*.
>
> Current Agenda*:
>
>    - Quick updates on existing WG documents
>    - Discussion about integration design between ALTO and Globus/HTCondor
>
>
>
>    -  Go over how to extend Globus for some simple but important use
>       cases using ALTO
>
>
>    - Planning for ALTO workshop (IETF106)
>
> *If people have other agenda items, please feel free to post.
>
> Bridge: https://yale.zoom.us/j/8423318713
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Danny Lachos
>
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