Re: [Anima-bootstrap] [core] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est-00.txt

Julien Vermillard <jvermillard@gmail.com> Mon, 31 October 2016 07:54 UTC

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From: Julien Vermillard <jvermillard@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 08:54:12 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Anima-bootstrap] [core] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est-00.txt
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Hi,
It's something I would like to implement, but I have a question:
why the draft doesn't support PSK based authentication (only certificates),
because I have a fleet of device using PSK and I would like to move them to
X.509 based auth.
My plan is to use EST over CoAP, do the initial auth using DTLS-PSK and
then move to regular DTLS X.509 mutual auth.

--
Julien Vermillard

On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 5:11 PM, peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> we have submitted a new draft  Enrollment over Secure Transport (EST) over
> coaps to make BRSKI over coap possible.
> We expect (parts of) this draft to be integrated with coap-bootstrap draft
> of pritikin and Kampanakis.
> This draft removes EST functionality not absolutely needed within the
> context we expect the BRSKI deployment for low-resource devices.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Peter
>
> -------- Oorspronkelijke bericht --------
> Onderwerp: New Version Notification for draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est
> -00.txt
> Datum: 2016-10-29 17:04
> Afzender: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> Ontvanger: "Peter van der Stok" <consultancy@vanderstok.org>rg>, "Peter Van
> der Stok" <consultancy@vanderstok.org>rg>, "Sandeep Kumar" <ietf@sandeep.de>de>,
> "Sandeep S. Kumar" <ietf@sandeep.de>
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Peter van der Stok and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name:           draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est
> Revision:       00
> Title:          EST based on DTLS secured CoAP (EST-coaps)
> Document date:  2016-10-29
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          15
> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-
> drafts/draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est-00.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/
> doc/draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est/
> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/d
> raft-vanderstok-core-coap-est-00
>
>
> Abstract:
>    Low-resource devices in a Low-power and Lossy Network (LLN) can
>    operate in a mesh network using the IPv6 over Low-power Personal Area
>    Networks (6LoWPAN) and IEEE 802.15.4 link-layer standards.
>    Provisioning these devices in a secure manner with keys (often called
>    security bootstrapping) used to encrypt and authenticate messages is
>    the subject of Bootstrapping of Remote Secure Key Infrastructures
>    (BRSKI) [I-D.ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra].  Enrollment over
>    Secure Transport (EST) [RFC7030], based on TLS and HTTP, is used for
>    BRSKI.  This document defines how low-resource devices are expected
>    to use EST over DTLS and CoAP. 6LoWPAN fragmentation management and
>    minor extensions to CoAP are needed to enable EST over DTLS-secured
>    CoAP (EST-coaps).
>
>
>
>
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