Re: [Anima-bootstrap] [core] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est-00.txt

peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl> Fri, 04 November 2016 08:58 UTC

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From: peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl>
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Subject: Re: [Anima-bootstrap] [core] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est-00.txt
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It all depends on the interest generated in this document and for what 
purpose:
- BRSKI only with limited EST support
- Or full EST

For the moment it is BRSKI without manual intervention. When things are 
missing in that context, we will certainly add them.

Peter

Carsten Bormann schreef op 2016-11-01 16:34:
> Sending around MIME messages between constrained devices doesn’t
> strike me as the optimal way forward.
> Fortunately, we have COSE, which would be an easy way to combine a key
> wrap with some signing info.
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
> On 1 November 2016 at 16:30:43, Michel Veillette
> (michel.veillette@trilliantinc.com) wrote:
> 
>> Hi Peter
>> 
>> In section 3 of "draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est-00",
>> "Server-generated key" is listed as supported.
>> This service returns two components, a PKCS8 containing the private
>> key material and a PKCS7 containing the device certificate chain.
>> In RFC7030, this information is returned using a Content-Type:
>> multipart/mixed.
>> How this is supported in "draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est-00"?
>> 
>> REQ: POST /.well-known/est/serverkeygen (Content-Format:
>> application/pkcs10)
>> <ASN.1 CertificationRequest> // Certificate request carry in a
>> PKCS10
>> 
>> RES: 2.05 Content (Content-Format: ???)
>> <ASN.1 ContentSet> // Private key material for this node carry in a
>> PKCS8
>> <ASN.1 ContentInfo> // Certificate and associated PKI for this node
>> carry in a PKCS7
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Michel
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: core [mailto:core-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of peter van der
>> Stok
>> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 11:12 AM
>> To: Anima-bootstrap <anima-bootstrap@ietf.org>; Core <core@ietf.org>
>> 
>> Subject: [core] Fwd: New Version Notification for
>> draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est-00.txt
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> we have submitted a new draft Enrollment over Secure Transport (EST)
>> over coaps to make BRSKI over coap possible.
>> We expect (parts of) this draft to be integrated with coap-bootstrap
>> draft of pritikin and Kampanakis.
>> This draft removes EST functionality not absolutely needed within
>> the context we expect the BRSKI deployment for low-resource devices.
>> 
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> -------- Oorspronkelijke bericht --------
>> Onderwerp: New Version Notification for
>> draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est-00.txt
>> Datum: 2016-10-29 17:04
>> Afzender: internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> Ontvanger: "Peter van der Stok" <consultancy@vanderstok.org>, "Peter
>> Van der Stok" <consultancy@vanderstok.org>, "Sandeep Kumar"
>> <ietf@sandeep.de>, "Sandeep S. Kumar" <ietf@sandeep.de>
>> 
>> A new version of I-D, draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est-00.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Peter van der Stok and posted to
>> the IETF repository.
>> 
>> Name: draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est
>> Revision: 00
>> Title: EST based on DTLS secured CoAP (EST-coaps)
>> Document date: 2016-10-29
>> Group: Individual Submission
>> Pages: 15
>> URL:
>> 
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est-00.txt
>> 
>> Status:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est/
>> Htmlized:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vanderstok-core-coap-est-00
>> 
>> Abstract:
>> Low-resource devices in a Low-power and Lossy Network (LLN) can
>> operate in a mesh network using the IPv6 over Low-power Personal
>> Area
>> Networks (6LoWPAN) and IEEE 802.15.4 link-layer standards.
>> Provisioning these devices in a secure manner with keys (often
>> called
>> security bootstrapping) used to encrypt and authenticate messages is
>> 
>> the subject of Bootstrapping of Remote Secure Key Infrastructures
>> (BRSKI) [I-D.ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra]. Enrollment over
>> Secure Transport (EST) [RFC7030], based on TLS and HTTP, is used for
>> 
>> BRSKI. This document defines how low-resource devices are expected
>> to use EST over DTLS and CoAP. 6LoWPAN fragmentation management and
>> minor extensions to CoAP are needed to enable EST over DTLS-secured
>> CoAP (EST-coaps).
>> 
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