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Re: [Anima-bootstrap] joiner router stateful/stateless considerations

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 19 January 2016 21:26 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:26:50 +1300
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Subject: Re: [Anima-bootstrap] joiner router stateful/stateless considerations
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On 20/01/2016 09:40, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>     >> and there is the more complex Internet with ASAs - probably using http with TLS-
> 
>     > I assume you mean using https for bootstrap, since ASAs use GRASP over
>     > the ACP (or possibly GRASP over TLS) for normal operation.
> 
>     > Even so I don't understand why https would be the probable choice for bootstrap.
> 
> EST (RFC7030) runs over HTTPS.

Yes. Which means that low end devices will end up carrying a load of software
they don't really need, IMHO. Sigh.

   Brian

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