Re: [Anima-bootstrap] Max: voucher terminology / explanations in next draft round

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sat, 17 December 2016 19:50 UTC

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Comments: In-reply-to Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> message dated "Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:59:03 +0100."
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Subject: Re: [Anima-bootstrap] Max: voucher terminology / explanations in next draft round
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Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
    > I think that the voucher terminology will be confusing as long as the
    > name "audit" (voucher) implies the use of a public key (line 144 in
    > etherpad), and the "ownership" (voucher) implies the use of a
    > certificate (via DN of certificate). audit vs. ownership are just

I agree.

I also think that the audit promise is orthogonal to how the owner is
indicated.  It might be that all combinations are not useful, but I'd like to
enumerate them anyway.


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