Re: [Anima-bootstrap] [6tisch-security] goals for this 6tisch design team -- zero-touch vs one-touch
Randy Turner <rturner@amalfisystems.com> Wed, 08 June 2016 07:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Anima-bootstrap] [6tisch-security] goals for this 6tisch design team -- zero-touch vs one-touch
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The only ANIMA document I can find with “bootstrap” in the title specifically precludes its’ application in constrained environments… The entire solution described in this document is aimed in general at non-constrained (i.e. class 2+) devices operating on a non-Challenged network. The entire solution described here is not intended to be useable as-is by constrained devices operating on challenged networks (such as 802.15.4 LLNs). So I’m assuming we can “borrow” ideas from ANIMA but reuse it … Randy > On Jun 7, 2016, at 9:16 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote: > > > There has been a fair bit of discussion, much if it 1:1 offlist about what > the goals of this design team is. > > Our charter says: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/6tisch/charter/ > > ... > The WG will continue working on securing the join process and making > that fit within the constraints of high latency, low throughput and > small frame sizes that characterize IEEE802.15.4 TSCH. > ... > - Produce a specification for a secure 6TiSCH network bootstrap, adapted > to the constraints of 6TiSCH nodes and leveraging existing art when > possible. > > Zero-touch vs one-touch is not mentioned. > > In https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-richardson-6tisch--security-6top-05 > Based upon conversation that lead to the 2014 era work, I had written: > A challenging part with constructing an LLN with nodes from multiple > vendors is providing enough security context to each node such that > the network communication can form and remain secure. Most LLNs are > small and have no operator interfaces at all, and even if they have > debug interfaces (such as JTAG) with personnel trained to use that, > doing any kind of interaction involving electrical connections in a > dirty environment such as a factory or refinery is hopeless. > > It is necessary to have a way to introduce new nodes into a 6tisch > network that does not involve any direct manipulation of the nodes > themselves. This act has been called "zero-touch" provisioning, and > it does not occur by chance, but requires coordination between the > manufacturer of the node, the service operator running the LLN, and > the installers actually taking the devices out of the shipping boxes. > > This is in alignment with the ANIMA bootstrap work. > > Recently the desire for a "one-touch" provisioning system has been expressed. > Rationals include: simpler, less code, less complex, lower energy, etc. > (My goal is not to dispute any of these points here) > > This is to be constrasted with a zero-touch system where unique PreSharedKeys > (PSKs) are provisioned during manufacturing and are provided to the end-customer in > some fashion. > > A one-touch system would involve some kind of special provisioning room: > * customer plugs in cable to device and installs a PSK (whether unique > per node, or per-network) > * customer turns on device in faraday cage, uses well-known PSK to > take ownership and install a per-node unique PSK > * some other model > The customer then puts the device back into a box and puts it into inventory > to be deployed as appropriate. I'm told that this is exactly the model that > the electric metering (AMI) people use. I don't know if the special > provisioning room/cable is done centrally or on-site, but I do know that the > meters have standard-ish fiber optic connections for doing this. (Fiber to > avoid electrical shock: cf: ANSI C12.18) > > It seems that there are an innumerable number of ways that the "touch" for a > one-touch system could be done, and if there is real desire to accomodate > such a process, we need to state some assumptions about the touch process. > As such, a document is surely needed. Some questions I have: > 1) is it physical? (vs radio. vs a BNC/etc cable plugged instead of antenna) > 2) is it encrypted? > 3) does it run IP? > 4) how many bits can be transmitted/received? > 5) is the target CPU alive, or is this JTAG or JTAG-like? > > If we are using (D)TLS, then to me, then a way to do one-touch without any > asymmetric crypto would be to create a TLS session resumption ticket > <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5077>. Not via the NewSessionTicket exchange, > but directly. The controller (JCE) would actually have knowledge of the > ticket format (section 4). The format would not be "Recommended" but rather > standardized, moving all of the heavy work from the device to the JCE. The > device would simply be told the "master key". Would this work, I don't know > yet, because I don't know what one-touch setup can do. > > If this is the direction we need to go, great, but someone has to step up to > write this document. > > The advantage of what I would propose is that a zero-touch and one-touch > solution would be identical, except for how the TLS session is initiated. > > -- > Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works > -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- > > > > _______________________________________________ > 6tisch-security mailing list > 6tisch-security@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch-security
- [Anima-bootstrap] goals for this 6tisch design te… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Anima-bootstrap] [6tisch-security] goals for… Randy Turner
- Re: [Anima-bootstrap] [6tisch-security] goals for… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Anima-bootstrap] [6tisch-security] goals for… Randy Turner
- Re: [Anima-bootstrap] [6tisch-security] goals for… Michael Richardson