Re: [Anima-bootstrap] joiner router stateful/stateless considerations

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Tue, 19 January 2016 20:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Anima-bootstrap] joiner router stateful/stateless considerations
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Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> and there is the more complex Internet with ASAs - probably using http with TLS-

    > I assume you mean using https for bootstrap, since ASAs use GRASP over
    > the ACP (or possibly GRASP over TLS) for normal operation.

    > Even so I don't understand why https would be the probable choice for bootstrap.

EST (RFC7030) runs over HTTPS.


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