Re: [Anima-bootstrap] joiner router stateful/stateless considerations

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 19 January 2016 19:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Anima-bootstrap] joiner router stateful/stateless considerations
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Hi Peter,

On 20/01/2016 00:13, peter van der Stok wrote:
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> There is the “managed network” part with the standardized stack without ASAs - possibly using DTLS with CoAP-, 

Then it's not part of Anima. But I don't understand why you make the assumption "without ASAs".
Or do you just mean "without needing an ASA and GRASP during bootstrap"?

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> and there is the more complex Internet with ASAs - probably using http with TLS-

I assume you mean using https for bootstrap, since ASAs use GRASP over
the ACP (or possibly GRASP over TLS) for normal operation.

Even so I don't understand why https would be the probable choice for bootstrap.

   Brian