Re: [Anima-bootstrap] converging on some common terminology

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 21 January 2017 21:42 UTC

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So, we should adopt this terminology for the GRASP objectives,
I guess. We also need to make them correspond to the latest thinking
in other ways too. Any more comments on draft-carpenter-anima-ani-objectives
before we update it?

Regards
   Brian

On 21/01/2017 04:26, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> At the 6tisch-security design team call and then on the anima bootstrap call
> on Tuesday, we discussed merging of terminology as an important step to
> getting all the bootstrap ideas together.
> 
> These are the terms which we have concluded on:
> 
> 1) PLEDGE.      replaces Joining Node and "New Node"
> 2) JOIN PROXY.  replaces Join Assistant and bare "Proxy"
> 3) JOIN REGISTRAR (and Coordinator). Replaces bare "Registrar", and JCE.
>                    The "Coordinator" part is considered a seperate,
>                    co-located, but optional role.
> 
> 4) MASA.        remains the same.
> 5) vendor provided interface that MASA uses to talk to remains unnamed.
> 
> Here are the proposals therefore:
> 
> ANIMA, dtbootstrap document.
>         was already using PLEDGE. (KEEP IT)
>         PROXY -> JOIN PROXY.
>         REGISTRAR -> officially, "Join Registrar", maybe be shortened
>                      in the text to "Registrar" where this is unambiguous.
> 
> 6tisch-dtsecurity ("Phase one") and 6tisch-minimal security ("One-Touch/Phase two"):
> 
> Was using Joining Node    --> Pledge.
> Was using Join Assistant  --> Join Proxy
> Was using Joint Coordination Entity (JCE)  -> Join Registrar and Coordinator.
> Adds term MASA.
> 
> Additional terms which we need to import:
> 
>   1) "drop ship"
>   2) "imprint",
>   3) "enrollment",
>   4) "audit token", "ownership token"  <- from draft-ietf-anima-voucher.
> 
> There also some discussion about the terminology used by 802.15.10:
>       "mesh root"  <- has a coordinator role and a registrar role as I
>       understand it.
> 
> We asked if: Registrar and Coordinator always co-located?
> We thought so, but there could be exceptions, and it might be out of scope.
> 
> 
> ACTION ITEMS
> ============
> 1) ANIMA documents to update terms, and be authoritative for terms.
> 2) 6tisch documents to update terms, pointing at ANIMA and 6tisch terminology.
> 3) 6tisch terminology document to include the terms as being imported from ANIMA.
> 4) netconf: probably just adjust terminology to point at when they terms are
>             the same as ANIMA, or when they are different.
> 
> 
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>ca>, Sandelman Software Works
>  -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
> 
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