Re: [Anima-signaling] Take 2: Draft message on proposed change to GRASP
"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Wed, 27 April 2016 23:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Anima-signaling] Take 2: Draft message on proposed change to
GRASP
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The proposal looks fine. I might adjust the "implementation" text slightly. If someone implements multiple ASAs in a common address space, they can share the UDP port and demux using other fields. This change allows them to be in separate spaces, without requiring it. What I am commenting on the text "When it starts up, an ASA will ...". I think "will" is too strong. Yours, Joel On 4/27/16 7:52 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Hi, > > Design team, and Joel, > > Updated following the feedback received and trial implementation. Please > let me know if OK; I would like to send this to the WG tomorrow. > > Short version: > > We propose that when an ASA listens for negotiation or synchronization > requests, it should do so on its own transport port number rather than sharing > the generic GRASP port number as currently defined. The consequence for the > protocol is that discovery responses must include a complete transport address > (locator+protocol+port) instead of just the locator. > > Long version: > > We want ASAs to run as separate modules in user address space, as applications, > rather than being bundled with the GRASP engine in kernel space. To achieve this > with all ASAs listening on the same port number would require quite complicated > inter-process communication between the GRASP kernel and the indvidual ASAs. > The details of this would be different in every operating system. If we > allow each ASA to have its own port this can be avoided, and each ASA can have > its own copy of the GRASP API library if required. This will make the systems > engineering of portable ASAs much easier, and will make the adaptation of > the GRASP API library and the GRASP kernel to various operating systems easier > too. > > In practice we need to indicate the protocol (TCP or UDP) as well, since > dynamic ports are assigned for a specific socket and protocol. > > We propose to redefine the locator returned by GRASP discovery accordingly. For > the IPv6 case that would give the following CDDL: > > locator-option /= [O_IPv6_LOCATOR, ipv6-address, transport-proto, port-number] > ipv6-address = bytes .size 16 > transport-proto = IPPROTO_TCP / IPPROTO_UDP > IPPROTO_TCP = 6 > IPPROTO_UDP = 17 > port-number = 0..65535 > > We did consider making this optional, but that would raise interoperability > issues. If an implementation does choose to use the GRASP_LISTEN_PORT > for all ASAs, that could simply be returned as the port-number. > > Implementation note: > > When it starts up, an ASA will obtain an ephemeral port number for each > transport protocol that it supports, and that will be used in discovery > responses. > > Comments? > > Note: Toerless Eckert brought up this problem and outlined the proposed > solution. > > Brian > > >
- [Anima-signaling] Take 2: Draft message on propos… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Anima-signaling] Take 2: Draft message on pr… Joel M. Halpern