Re: [Anima-signaling] GRASP and unicast UDP
Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com> Wed, 17 August 2016 06:23 UTC
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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:23:14 -0700
From: Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Anima-signaling] GRASP and unicast UDP
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Thanks a lot for the insight. How about trying CoAP ? On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 04:42:40PM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > To entertain myself while waiting for comments on other matters, I spent > quite some time (and swear words) on hacking the prototype GRASP to use > UDP instead of TCP for unicast operations (i.e. discovery responses, > synchronization responses, and negotiation). > > My conclusion is that it's a fairly silly thing to do, except possibly > for discovery, which only involved a normal amount of debugging. I'm sure > this is something that DNS server developers are very familiar with: > writing a robust server handling things over UDP is a great deal harder > than doing it with TCP. In fact I gave up when I realised that for > the negotiation case (where there are an unpredictable number of messages > in both directions) I was basically going to have to rewrite half of TCP, > and still not have a robust solution. Without a lot more work, the UDP > solution is riddled with timing-dependent issues. (At one point, adding > a print statement for debugging fixed the bug, so that I simply couldn't > debug it...) > > Of course, all this could be solved with more work, but I'm really not > sure we should recommend UDP at all, except for discovery responses. > I can't really imagine a real autonomic node that doesn't have TCP code. > > Comments? > > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > Anima-signaling mailing list > Anima-signaling@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima-signaling
- Re: [Anima-signaling] GRASP and unicast UDP Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Anima-signaling] GRASP and unicast UDP Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Anima-signaling] GRASP and unicast UDP Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Anima-signaling] GRASP and unicast UDP Toerless Eckert
- [Anima-signaling] GRASP and unicast UDP Brian E Carpenter