[Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-16.txt, WAS: AW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-15.txt

Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com> Thu, 16 January 2025 10:07 UTC

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Hi Thomas,

Thanks. I have sent the document for publishing. And congratulations!

> On Jan 15, 2025, at 9:42 PM, Werner, Thomas <thomas-werner@siemens.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Mahesh,
> next version is available now.
> 
> Thanks and regards
> Thomas
>  
> [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-16.txt
> internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> Wed, 15 January 2025 16:07 UTCShow header <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/anima/>
> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-16.txt is now available. It is a
> work item of the Autonomic Networking Integrated Model and Approach (ANIMA) WG
> of the IETF.
>  
>    Title:   JWS signed Voucher Artifacts for Bootstrapping Protocols
>    Authors: Thomas Werner
>             Michael Richardson
>    Name:    draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-16.txt
>    Pages:   17
>    Dates:   2025-01-15
>  
> Abstract:
>  
>    This document introduces a variant of the RFC8366 voucher artifact in
>    which CMS is replaced by the JSON Object Signing and Encryption
>    (JOSE) mechanism described in RFC7515.  This supports deployments in
>    which JOSE is preferred over CMS.  In addition to specifying the
>    format, the "application/voucher-jws+json" media type is registered
>    and examples are provided.
>  
> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher/>
>  
> There is also an HTML version available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-16.html <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-16.html>
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> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-16 <https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-16>
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> [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-… <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/anima/yXFTAnNjk42B61AIrw6QS6EbbyM/>  internet-drafts
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> Von: Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com <mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com>>
> Datum: Mittwoch, 15. Januar 2025 um 04:54
> An: Murray Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com <mailto:superuser@gmail.com>>
> Cc: Werner, Thomas (FT RPD CST SEA-DE) <thomas-werner@siemens.com <mailto:thomas-werner@siemens.com>>, ietf@kovatsch.net <mailto:ietf@kovatsch.net> <ietf@kovatsch.net <mailto:ietf@kovatsch.net>>, draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher@ietf.org <mailto:draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher@ietf.org> <draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher@ietf.org <mailto:draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher@ietf.org>>, anima-chairs@ietf.org <mailto:anima-chairs@ietf.org> <anima-chairs@ietf.org <mailto:anima-chairs@ietf.org>>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca <mailto:mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>>, anima@ietf.org <mailto:anima@ietf.org> <anima@ietf.org <mailto:anima@ietf.org>>, IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org <mailto:ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org>>
> Betreff: Re: [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-15.txt
> 
> Thanks, Murray, for the clarification. Matthias, are we good to go ahead with the document?
>  
> Thomas, let me know when you have uploaded the -16 version of the document.
>  
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2025, at 9:55 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com <mailto:superuser@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> The description of the "Interoperability Considerations" field of the media types registration template is defined in RFC 6838 thus:
>  
>       Any issues regarding the interoperable use of types employing this
>       structured syntax should be given here.  Examples would include
>       the existence of incompatible versions of the syntax, issues
>       combining certain charsets with the syntax, or incompatibilities
>       with other types or protocols.
>  
> In response to this, the draft simply says:
>  
>       The format is designed to be broadly interoperable.
>  
> To me, this looks like you're being asked "What interoperability problems exist that you know of?" and the answer is "We designed this to work everywhere."  It's not quite answering the question, and that's why I raised a concern.  If you have thought through questions of protocol incompatibilities, character sets, version incompatibilities, etc., as in the definition and are reasonably sure there aren't any, you can simply say "None" or "N/A", or if you come up with some possible issues, describe them here.
>  
> Hope this helps,
>  
> -MSK
>  
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 7:51 AM Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com <mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Thanks Thomas for working on the comments.
>  
> There is one particular comment from Murray on “Interoperability considerations” as part of the registration request. Has that been addressed? I did not see a response to his review, and I have not seen a change in text. Murray, do you think you could help guide authors on what you think the template is looking for?
>  
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2025, at 5:36 PM, Werner, Thomas <thomas-werner@siemens.com <mailto:thomas-werner@siemens.com>> wrote:
>  
> Just uploaded: draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-15
> this addresses the remaining COMMENTs provided as part of the telechat and mailing list.
>  
> Thanks, and regards!
> Thomas
>  
>  
> Von: internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> <internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>>
> Datum: Dienstag, 14. Januar 2025 um 12:49
> An: i-d-announce@ietf.org <mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org> <i-d-announce@ietf.org <mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org>>
> Cc: anima@ietf.org <mailto:anima@ietf.org> <anima@ietf.org <mailto:anima@ietf.org>>
> Betreff: [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-15.txt
> 
> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-15.txt is now available. It is a
> work item of the Autonomic Networking Integrated Model and Approach (ANIMA) WG
> of the IETF.
> 
>    Title:   JWS signed Voucher Artifacts for Bootstrapping Protocols
>    Authors: Thomas Werner
>             Michael Richardson
>    Name:    draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-15.txt
>    Pages:   17
>    Dates:   2025-01-14
> 
> Abstract:
> 
>    This document introduces a variant of the RFC8366 voucher artifact in
>    which CMS is replaced by the JSON Object Signing and Encryption
>    (JOSE) mechanism described in RFC7515.  This supports deployments in
>    which JOSE is preferred over CMS.  In addition to specifying the
>    format, the "application/voucher-jws+json" media type is registered
>    and examples are provided.
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cthomas-werner%40siemens.com%7C500b1ec792ad4200ff5108dd349173a7%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d55a%7C1%7C0%7C638724521501880129%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3rKRtMREFclnaRRT59eYURerQPLvxgnG%2FvUr9GUyOkU%3D&reserved=0 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher/>
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> There is also an HTML version available at:
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