Re: [Anima] Russ: Re: rfc822Name use in Autonomic Control Plane document

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Mon, 29 June 2020 13:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Anima] Russ: Re: rfc822Name use in Autonomic Control Plane document
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Toerless:

>> I think that everyone understands that at this point.
> 
> I do not understand how a recommendation like yours can raise to
> a blocking DISCUSS in an IESG review.

I was asked to go a review, and I did so.  As I said, I am quite sure that you and everyone else that is reading this thread understands the concern at this point.

In my opinion, and the opinion of a few others that have spoken on this list, the use of rfc822name is harmful.

Russ