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[Anima] Moving forward with draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Mon, 22 June 2020 10:43 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Anima WG <anima@ietf.org>
CC: Stephen Kent <stkent=40verizon.net@dmarc.ietf.org>, Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, "tte+ietf@cs.fau.de" <tte+ietf@cs.fau.de>, "sbjarnason@arbor.net" <sbjarnason@arbor.net>, "Michael.H.Behringer@gmail.com" <Michael.H.Behringer@gmail.com>, "warren@kumari.net" <warren@kumari.net>, "jiangsheng@huawei.com" <jiangsheng@huawei.com>, "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
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As the shepherding AD for this document, I am happy to see recent technical discussions on this document. OTOH, I do not observe any convergence to remove the pending DISCUSS.



The 2nd IETF Last Call was completed 2 months ago in April 2020. Joel Halpern did the review for routing directorate and found a couple of issues (zone-ID, loopback definition) and it seems that there is now an agreement within the community for updated the text.



In order to progress the document, a revised I-D is needed to fix Ben’s DISCUSS points:

- Use of rfc822Name rather than otherName: the ‘easy’ fix is indeed to use otherName (even with the section 6.1.2 justifications)

- “MTI cryptographic mechanisms are under-specified” that should not be controversial and easy to fix

- Clarification about the RPL root



Unsure whether Eric Rescola’s DISCUSS are still applicable (as they were on -16); but, this would be a plus to fix these points.



I understand that the authors have worked on this for 6 years and may be bored but I would love to see this I-D going forward. Again, as many others I fail to see the reason of using rfc822Name and the fix would be to use otherName.



May I also suggest to the authors to add new co-authors in order to have ‘fresh blood’ and energy ?



Regards



-éric

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