Re: [Anima] Russ: Re: rfc822Name use in Autonomic Control Plane document

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Sun, 28 June 2020 00:58 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:57:45 -0700
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To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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Subject: Re: [Anima] Russ: Re: rfc822Name use in Autonomic Control Plane document
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On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 5:54 PM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 05:18:46PM -0700, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> > Well, I understand you think you explained it, but unfortunately I don't
> > find that argument persuasive, nor, I suspect, do others.
> >
> > The ACP operator can perfectly well set up mailxobxes if he desires to.
> > >
> >
> > And if ACP required the operators to do so, I think that would also
> resolve
> > this issue from an IETF perspective (although you still would likely not
> be
> > able to get publicly verifiable certificates for this purpose, at least
> > from any CA in the Mozilla root program, for the reasons I indicated
> > previously).
>
> FInd the email in the thread where i eplained to Russ how a public CA
> is useless if not dangerous for what the ACP does right now, but it
> could be quite useful in future extensons, such as for interdomain
> auhentication via ACMPE S/MIME.
>
> Please understand the use case first before thinking that apply
> Internet public PKI requirements is always the right think to do.
>

I didn't say any such thing. I merely observed that it would not be
compatible
with the requirements those CAs operate under. That's why I put it in
parentheses.

-Ekr