Re: [Anima] Call for adoption: draft-dang-anima-network-service-auto-deployment

Hi, Brian

Thanks for your guidance materials. This is of great benefit to improve the draft. 

I agree with you that the description of the use case is too abstract. As I said in the last mail, our next version of the improvement plan is to add a more detailed description. And in my thought, the detailed description of the draft will help the WG participant to do an open source prototype.

Best regards
Yujing

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> 
Sent: 2021年11月17日 4:55
To: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com; Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>; anima@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Anima] Call for adoption: draft-dang-anima-network-service-auto-deployment

I agree with Med that the description of the use case is too abstract. I always try to look at use cases as a programmer: what would I put in my program to implement this?

So I think the next version should tackle this, possibly as an appendix. Give several specific examples of [restype, resval] (there are some hints in section 5) and a procedural description of the resource management process for those examples.

Note that the procedural description in https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-anima-asa-guidelines-03.html#name-example-logic-flows was constructed from a prototype implementation of RFC8992. If some WG participant wants to do an open source prototype of anima-network-service-auto-deployment, that might be a good way to proceed. See step 3 at https://xkcd.com/2530/ .

That said, I think this work is ready for WG adoption.

Regards
    Brian Carpenter

On 16-Nov-21 20:56, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I do see a value in documents that exercise how GRASP can be used in specific contexts. The authors can follow the structure in RFC8992 to better describe the target case, the theory of operation, etc.
> 
> FWIW, some quick comments to the authors can be seen at:
> 
> * pdf: 
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/master
> /draft-dang-anima-network-service-auto-deployment-01-rev%20Med.pdf
> * doc: 
> https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/raw/master/draft-dang
> -anima-network-service-auto-deployment-01-rev%20Med.doc
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Anima <anima-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de Toerless Eckert 
>> Envoyé : mardi 16 novembre 2021 03:17 À : anima@ietf.org Objet : 
>> [Anima] Call for adoption: draft-dang-anima-network-service-auto-
>> deployment
>>
>> The authors of draft-dang-anima-network-service-auto-deployment have 
>> asked ANIMA WG for adoption of the work.
>>
>> Given how we are probably all still exhausted from IETF112, let me 
>> give this one a bit more time:
>>
>> This emails starts a three week call for adoption for 
>> draft-dang-anima- network-service-auto-deployment The adoption call 
>> does end when December 6 has passed for everyone on planet earth.
>>
>> draft-dang-anima-network-service-auto-deployment-01
>>
>> Abstract
>>
>>     This document specifies an autonomic mechanism for resource-based
>>     network services deployment through the Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)
>>     in an Autonomic Network.  This mechanism uses the GRASP in [RFC8990]
>>     to exchange the information among the autonomic nodes so that the
>>     resource among the service path can be coordinated.
>>
>> So, please check out the document and chime in!
>>
>> Toerless, for the ANIMA chairs.
>>
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