Re: [Anima] Adoption call for draft-liu-anima-grasp-distribution (ends 01/27/2020)

["Liubing (Leo)" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Toerless,

Thanks a lot for summarizing the comments!
We'll revise a new version as you suggested, and upload it soon. We'll also try to maintain a github repo.

Best regards,
Bing

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toerless Eckert [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:13 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Anima] Adoption call for draft-liu-anima-grasp-distribution (ends
> 01/27/2020)
> 
> We had 5 voices feedback (from non-authors) to support adoption of this
> document, and no voices objecting. I think this qualifies for adoption of the
> document.
> 
> Nevertheless, the supporting voices did indicate a range of improvements they
> would like to see. So, jere is what i would propose:
> 
> Dear-authors:
> 
> A) Please add a section Open Issues, mark it as
> [RFC-Editor: To Be removed before becoming RFC].
> Make it contain the following text:
> 
> The following issues where identified by the WG when adopting the -00 draft
> version. These issues will be individually removed in upcoming when they are
> resolved.
> 
> 1. More reference to the use cases in the introduction.
> 
> 2. Better explanation of the required context of the Connected-Car case:
> Not applicable unless the ACP will be extended to the car, which may not be
> desirable with the current ACP design, but maybe refocussing on an
> "autonomous fleet" use-case (e.g.: all cars operated by some taxi like service).
> 
> 3. Consider use-case/example of firmware update.  By abstracting the location
> of the firmware from the name of the firmware, while providing a way to notify
> about it, this significantly supports distribution of firmware updates.
> References to SUIT would appropriate.
> 
> 4. Issues discussed in
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/anima/_0fYQPBcLPt8xzQee7P4dILsn3A
> 
> 5. Rethink/refine terminology, e.g.: "module" seems to be too prescriptive.
> Refine proposed extensions.
> 
> 6. I support adoption, but also support the suggestion (from IETF106) Provide
> more protocol behavior description  instead of only implementation / software
> module architecture description.
> Reduce the latter or provide better justification for their presence due to
> explained interoperability requirements.
> 
> 7. Better motivation in sections 1..4 of the proposed extensions
> 
> 8. Consider moving examples from appendices into core-text . Ideally craft a
> single use-case showing/applying all extensions (most simple use case that uses
> them all).
> 
> 9. Refine terminology to better match/reuse-the established terminology from
> the pre-existing ANIMA documents.
> 
> B) Add changelog section, equally marked as to be removed before . For this
> version -00 it should just list above section from A) to be new.
> 
> C) Designate in the authors list one or two main editors for the time
>    being, doesn't have to be final, just whoever has the main edit pen
>    from you.  Post this version as -00 with name
>    draft-ietf-anima-grasp-distribution-00
>    and replacing draft-liu-anima-grasp-distribution
> 
>    I will then approve that doc as WG chair.
> 
> D) Feel free to work on -01 and further. In the changelog, please
>    describe for each change which of the above 9 points are addressed by
>    the change and concentrate on those changes first before addressing
>    further enhancements.
> 
> E) I would strongly suggest you authors consider to create a repo for
>    this document under www.github.com/anima-wg It specifically makees
>    it easier to open for each of the above 10 bullet points possible
>    "Issues" where it would be easier to have focussed discusses.
> 
>    I am not a github is the only way groupie though, so please make sure
>    all discussions are Cc'ed to the mailing list, even though it may primarily be on
>    github to make then easier to track/find.
> 
> Cheers
>     Toerless
> 
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:45:33PM +0100, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> > This message starts a two-week adoption call, it ends on January 27th, 2020.
> >
> > draft-liu-anima-grasp-distribution was progressed up to version -13
> > with the help of the WG, it was last presented at IETF106 with good interest.
> > The draft is now clearly in scope of ANIMA charter 2 that was adopted
> > around IETF106. The authors asked for adoption of the document.
> > As far as the chairs heard, there was no objection in the room.
> >
> > We therefore are asking the ANIMA working group for adoption of the
> following work:
> >
> > Title:    Information Distribution in Autonomic Networking
> > Name:     draft-liu-anima-grasp-distribution
> > Authors:  B. Liu, X. Xiao, A. Hecker, S. Jiang, Z. Despotovic
> > URL:      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-anima-grasp-distribution/
> >
> > This document is intended to become a standards track ANIMA WG document.
> >
> > Standard track is desired because it is meant to become the required
> > small set of protocol extensions to the GRASP protocol in support of
> > the self-organization of ASA.
> >
> > Please express your support or rejection. If you think this document
> > should _not_ be adopted, please also explicitly indicate the reasons.
> >
> > For the ANIMA WG chairs,
> >     Toerless
> >
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