[Anima] Design Team Meeting discussion (April 25) on BRSKI-PRM discovery with cross relation to BRSKI-AE
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Subject: [Anima] Design Team Meeting discussion (April 25) on BRSKI-PRM discovery with cross relation to BRSKI-AE
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Hi Toerless, all During the design team meeting on Tuesday, we had a discussion on issue #79 (https://github.com/anima-wg/anima-brski-prm/issues/79) regarding the discovery of a registrar with enhanced functionalities like described in BRSKI-PRM. BRSKI-PRM supports pledges in responder mode and defines additional endpoints at the registrar to facilitate newly defined communication. To discover a registrar with this functionality, we currently discussion two options: DNS-SD sub-types or TXT parameters to describe the additional functionality. From the discussion on Tuesday, it looks like TXT parameters are used more widespread and that it would be a good a approach to go this way. Nevertheless, we will also have a look into the DNS subtypes. If you have any suggestion please post them in the issue directly. Independent of the final solution picked, as BRSKI-AE is also enhancing the functionality of a BRSKI registrar by supporting alternative enrollment protocols, the same approach is to be intended for BRSKI-AE as well. Therefore, we will wait with the submission of an updated BRSKI-AE draft until the discussion has ended. Best regards Steffen -- Steffen Fries Siemens AG Technology Cybersecurity & Trust T CST Otto-Hahn-Ring 6 81739 Munich, Germany Phone: +49 (89) 7805-22928 mailto:steffen.fries@siemens.com www.siemens.com [Logo] Siemens Aktiengesellschaft: Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Jim Hagemann Snabe; Managing Board: Roland Busch, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; Cedrik Neike, Matthias Rebellius, Ralf P. Thomas, Judith Wiese; Registered offices: Berlin and Munich, Germany; Commercial registries: Berlin-Charlottenburg, HRB 12300, Munich, HRB 6684; WEEE-Reg.-No. DE 23691322
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