Re: [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-network-service-auto-deployment-02.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 18 July 2022 03:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-network-service-auto-deployment-02.txt
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Please delete the previous message, I hit send by mistake!! More later...

Regards
    Brian Carpenter

On 18-Jul-22 15:37, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a few questions and comments on this draft. Please consider them at the same time as any discussion in the meeting at IETF 114.
> 
>>   1. Introduction
> ...
>>  From the network perspective, this kind of service has a source IP address and a destination IP address.
> 
> Are these always unicast addresses? Are there any cases in which one of the addresses might change (e.g. a node moves from a wired connection to WiFi, or moves from one WiFi subnet to another)?
> 
> Also, do you consider the case where a node fails and must be replaced automatically by another?
> 
> Perhaps my real question is this: Does the model cover *renegotiation* when the resource status changes unexpectedly?
> 
> I think your answer is yes, but that makes the statement about "a source address" and "a destination address" questionable, if both addresses might change.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
>      Brian
> 
> On 08-Jul-22 18:17, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the Autonomic Networking Integrated Model and Approach WG of the IETF.
>>
>>           Title           : An Autonomic Mechanism for Resource-based Network Services Auto-deployment
>>           Authors         : Joanna Dang
>>                             Sheng Jiang
>>                             Zongpeng Du
>>                             Yujing
>>     Filename        : draft-ietf-anima-network-service-auto-deployment-02.txt
>>     Pages           : 14
>>     Date            : 2022-07-07
>>
>> Abstract:
>>      This document specifies an autonomic mechanism for resource-based
>>      network services deployment through the Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)
>>      in a network.  This mechanism uses the GeneRic Autonomic Signaling
>>      Protocol (GRASP) in [RFC8990] to exchange the information among the
>>      autonomic nodes so that the resource along the service path can be
>>      coordinated.
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-anima-network-service-auto-deployment/
>>
>> There is also an htmlized version available at:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-anima-network-service-auto-deployment-02
>>
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-anima-network-service-auto-deployment-02
>>
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
>>
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