Re: [Anima] ANIMA: opinions about when to have webex anima meeting ? (IETF107 cancelled, now what ?)

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From: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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Subject: Re: [Anima] ANIMA: opinions about when to have webex anima meeting ? (IETF107 cancelled, now what ?)
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Please hold off doing a poll until there are further details from the IESG on the plans for virtual meeting support.

Regards,
Rob [wearing the incoming AD Hat]


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
> Sent: 11 March 2020 14:38
> To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
> Cc: anima@ietf.org; anima-ads@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Anima] ANIMA: opinions about when to have webex anima
> meeting ? (IETF107 cancelled, now what ?)
> 
> 
> Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>     > I was suggesting on the IETF mailing list to also allow the option
> to
>     > have the virtual WG meeting at the pre-allocated WG time-slot(s)
> during the
>     > IETF107 week, especially because most attendees would hopefully have
>     > that time slot available in their schedule, while later times may be
>     > less easy to carve free.
> 
>     > If you have opinions about when we should have an anima WG webex
>     > meeiting, please chime in. If you do prefer the time during IETF
> week,
>     > then maybe chime in to the discuss on ietf@ietf.org, otherwise,
> please
>     > or also have opinions here, or of coure always PM to
>     > anima-chairs@ietf.org
> 
> If you must do somethin todayg, post a doodle poll (Yes/No/If-Needbe)
> offering:
> 1) both of the IETF107 week ANIMA time-slots
> 2) some selection of China, PST/EST and Europe friendly slots in the two
>    weeks afterwards.
> 
> From the results, consider having two 1.5 slots, one slot optimized for
> each group of time zones.  Make sure that people enter If-Needbe if it
> won't be during their "day".
> 
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>ca>, Sandelman Software Works  -=
> IPv6 IoT consulting =-