Re: [Anima] [6tisch] [Netconf] Cross-WGs WGLC (second) on draft-ietf-anima-voucher-04 - Respond by Aug 08, 2017

peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl> Tue, 22 August 2017 06:43 UTC

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From: peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl>
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Subject: Re: [Anima] [6tisch] [Netconf] Cross-WGs WGLC (second) on draft-ietf-anima-voucher-04 - Respond by Aug 08, 2017
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Hi Kent,

Thanks for your work,

Peter

Kent Watsen schreef op 2017-08-21 17:53:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Thanks, I think we've reached closure.
> Please review the diffs to the latest.
> 
>   https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-anima-voucher-05
> 
> Thanks again,
> Kent
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Hi Kent,
> 
>>>> Can a discussion section about "manufacturer additions" be
>>>> added. Pointing out the consequences for interoperability
>>>> when using "Augment" to add manufacturer specifics can be
>>>> helpful.
>>> 
>>> I'm confused, which section does this comment regard?
>> 
>> It refers to the document as a whole and especially section 7.
>> Usually, manufacturers want manufacturer-specific additions to
>> documents.
>> They may consider to use Augment for that purpose.
>> My suggestion is to discuss ways to add manufacturer additions to the
>> voucher and the consequences.
>> That may turn out to be a big NO-NO to manufacturer additions.
>> I think it would be worthwhile to point that out.
>> 
>> <KENT> Are you asking for the voucher to contain a node
>> called something like 'opaque' having YANG type 'anyData'?
>> A sanctioned place where the MASA can stash some extra
>> stuff not defined by this document?  Recall that some of
>> the motivation for this work being standardized is to
>> enable inspection by intermediates, and while the opaque
>> data could be presented to a human, it might be base64
>> data.  Any concerns bout that?
> 
> <pvds>
> My suggestion is a discussion not a standardization. So, no additions 
> to
> the voucher in this document.
> However, pointing out the base64 format would be helpful for those
> thinking about an addition with opaque.
> </pvds>
>> 
>>> page 4, Voucher: add: that "acknowledges ownership of the pledge and"
>>> indicates...
>>> 
>>> <KENT> what does "acknowledges ownership of the pledge" mean?  how
>>> is it different than "indicates to a Pledge the cryptographic 
>>> identity
>>> of the Domain it should trust"?
>> 
>> Now I am confused. I thought it was 2 ways. Pledge trusts domain, and
>> domain partners trust pledge.
>> 
>> <KENT> The pledge trusts the MASA (which signs the voucher) and then
>> the pledge trusts the domain (whose cert is inside the voucher).
>> Perhaps you're conflating signing the voucher with acknowledging
>> ownership?
> 
> <pvds>
> I am afraid, that I made the voucher responsible for all keyinfra
> protocol objectives.
> Sorry, for the confusion.
> </pvds>
>> 
>> 
> 
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