Re: [Anima] [6tisch] [Netconf] Cross-WGs WGLC (second) on draft-ietf-anima-voucher-04 - Respond by Aug 08, 2017
peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl> Tue, 22 August 2017 06:43 UTC
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From: peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl>
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Subject: Re: [Anima] [6tisch] [Netconf] Cross-WGs WGLC (second) on draft-ietf-anima-voucher-04 - Respond by Aug 08, 2017
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Hi Kent, Thanks for your work, Peter Kent Watsen schreef op 2017-08-21 17:53: > Hi Peter, > > Thanks, I think we've reached closure. > Please review the diffs to the latest. > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-anima-voucher-05 > > Thanks again, > Kent > > > -- > > Hi Kent, > >>>> Can a discussion section about "manufacturer additions" be >>>> added. Pointing out the consequences for interoperability >>>> when using "Augment" to add manufacturer specifics can be >>>> helpful. >>> >>> I'm confused, which section does this comment regard? >> >> It refers to the document as a whole and especially section 7. >> Usually, manufacturers want manufacturer-specific additions to >> documents. >> They may consider to use Augment for that purpose. >> My suggestion is to discuss ways to add manufacturer additions to the >> voucher and the consequences. >> That may turn out to be a big NO-NO to manufacturer additions. >> I think it would be worthwhile to point that out. >> >> <KENT> Are you asking for the voucher to contain a node >> called something like 'opaque' having YANG type 'anyData'? >> A sanctioned place where the MASA can stash some extra >> stuff not defined by this document? Recall that some of >> the motivation for this work being standardized is to >> enable inspection by intermediates, and while the opaque >> data could be presented to a human, it might be base64 >> data. Any concerns bout that? > > <pvds> > My suggestion is a discussion not a standardization. So, no additions > to > the voucher in this document. > However, pointing out the base64 format would be helpful for those > thinking about an addition with opaque. > </pvds> >> >>> page 4, Voucher: add: that "acknowledges ownership of the pledge and" >>> indicates... >>> >>> <KENT> what does "acknowledges ownership of the pledge" mean? how >>> is it different than "indicates to a Pledge the cryptographic >>> identity >>> of the Domain it should trust"? >> >> Now I am confused. I thought it was 2 ways. Pledge trusts domain, and >> domain partners trust pledge. >> >> <KENT> The pledge trusts the MASA (which signs the voucher) and then >> the pledge trusts the domain (whose cert is inside the voucher). >> Perhaps you're conflating signing the voucher with acknowledging >> ownership? > > <pvds> > I am afraid, that I made the voucher responsible for all keyinfra > protocol objectives. > Sorry, for the confusion. > </pvds> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > 6tisch mailing list > 6tisch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch
- [Anima] Cross-WGs WGLC (second) on draft-ietf-ani… Sheng Jiang
- Re: [Anima] Cross-WGs WGLC (second) on draft-ietf… peter van der Stok
- Re: [Anima] [6tisch] Cross-WGs WGLC (second) on d… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Anima] [Netconf] Cross-WGs WGLC (second) on … Kent Watsen
- Re: [Anima] [6tisch] [Netconf] Cross-WGs WGLC (se… peter van der Stok
- Re: [Anima] [6tisch] [Netconf] Cross-WGs WGLC (se… Kent Watsen
- Re: [Anima] [6tisch] [Netconf] Cross-WGs WGLC (se… peter van der Stok
- Re: [Anima] [6tisch] [Netconf] Cross-WGs WGLC (se… Kent Watsen
- Re: [Anima] [6tisch] [Netconf] Cross-WGs WGLC (se… peter van der Stok