Re: [antitrust-policy] An Antitrust Policy for the IETF
Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Sun, 15 January 2012 20:38 UTC
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> Based on the length of this thread, it is clear to me that more discussion is needed, but I do not think that the IETF mail list is the place to have it. So, the antitrust-policy mail list has been set up to continue the discussion. > > It is clear to me that many people are questioning what would go in such a policy. I have been working on a strawman. It is short, but it answers the question about what topics would be covered. I will post that strawman to the antitrust-policy mail list for discussion from two perspectives. First, does the IETF want to adopt an antitrust policy. Second, the strawman will provide the basis for a conversation on the content of such a policy if the consensus is that the IETF wants to adopt one. > > I'll wait a few days so that people have time to join the antitrust-policy mail list before the discussion begins. When I announced this mail list, I said that i would post a strawman to answer the question about what such a policy would include. Here it is. Russ === === === === === Existing IETF process and procedures were specifically designed to avoid problems with antitrust and competition laws. The IETF has an open decision process, explicit rules for intellectual property, and a well-defined appeals process. All of these contribute to the robust standards development process used by the IETF. Yet, it is worth reminding all IETF participants that all IETF meetings, including virtual meetings, shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Some participants at IETF meetings are undoubtedly employed by competitors of the employers of other IETF meeting participants. Accordingly, IETF meeting participants are expected to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. IETF meeting participants MUST NOT: - discuss product prices, product profits, internal product cost, bidding, terms of bidding, allocation of customers, division of sales markets, sales territories, or marketing strategies; - condition or discuss conditioning the implementation of an IETF specification on the implementer’s use of products or services from a particular supplier; - discuss agreements to collectively refuse or conditionally refuse to do business with a particular supplier; - suggest any action for the purpose of giving one company or a few companies significant competitive advantage over others; - present or exchange proprietary information; or - share non-public status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. All IETF meeting participants MUST disclose patents or patent applications reasonably and personally known to them. Please review the IETF IPR rules in RFC 3979. IETF meeting participants MAY: - discuss technical considerations of any proposals, including relative costs to implement, operate, and support them; - discuss licensing costs of essential patent claims associated with different technical approaches; - discuss the likelihood that adoption of a particular technical approach would subject implementers to a greater or lesser risk of patent litigation; - discuss or present broad market potential or market requirements for informational purposes. If you observe behavior in violation of these guidelines at an IETF meeting, please do not be silent; formally object.
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- Re: [antitrust-policy] Should the IETF allow disc… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [antitrust-policy] Should the IETF allow disc… Jorge Contreras
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- Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those… Russ Housley
- Re: [antitrust-policy] Should the IETF allow disc… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [antitrust-policy] Should the IETF allow disc… Jorge Contreras
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- Re: [antitrust-policy] An Antitrust Policy for th… Thomas Narten
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- Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those… Marshall Eubanks
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- Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those… Thomas Narten
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- Re: [antitrust-policy] Should the IETF allow disc… Brian E Carpenter
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- Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those… Stephen Farrell
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- Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those… Stephen Farrell
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- Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those… Rigo Wenning
- Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those… Jorge Contreras
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- Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those… david.black
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