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Re: [antitrust-policy] An Antitrust Policy for the IETF

Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org> Sun, 15 January 2012 23:09 UTC

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Hi Jorge,

From:  Jorge Contreras <cntreras@gmail.com>
Date:  Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:57:28 -0600
To:  "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
Cc:  <antitrust-policy@ietf.org>, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
Subject:  Re: [antitrust-policy] An Antitrust Policy for the IETF

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> The issue of "collective negotiation" of licensing terms within an SDO is
> currently unsettled, and there are vocal advocates on each side of the
> question.  There have been no cases (at least not in the US) that are directly
> on point, as far as I'm aware.  Thus, we may wish to say nothing about this
> issue for the moment, and see how the law develops.

That doesn't strike me as being the safest course of action.  What's wrong
the documenting the current practice (at least based on my IETF experience)
of not conducting licensing discussions in a Note Well setting?  What are
the reasons for taking the IMO bold step of not mentioning such an
obviously, and elsewhere prominently mentioned, point?

Thanks,
Stephan

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