IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those with no competitive interests?

Jorge Contreras <cntreras@gmail.com> Sun, 22 January 2012 16:59 UTC

Return-Path: <cntreras@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: antitrust-policy@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: antitrust-policy@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6018F21F8522 for <antitrust-policy@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:59:15 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -103.598
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SymvuB5wNFe4 for <antitrust-policy@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:59:14 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DC121F851E for <antitrust-policy@ietf.org>; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:59:14 -0800 (PST)
Received: by wibhn9 with SMTP id hn9so1933543wib.31 for <antitrust-policy@ietf.org>; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:59:13 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3bPUb7OrkT2EbjBb3JXxUIUWAoHwj+I5dIr7N9MHFZ4=; b=AUUNfpEDb3WwbVIZ/0AKW9MR36P41U+oMiX7Zdv1MN2pZvC42PPcx895no19q6OP9i 29CJpTkC8WqEZRMUBprMjYGPosvMDmkvWR+iYpyOwg7ZX0/brxfmlOBVor0MykVLC85G xkEbXIS4DsQU3uvnXNbc9s/5PbGhCEUtsGBbA=
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.180.20.69 with SMTP id l5mr9099241wie.19.1327251553817; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:59:13 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.223.161.136 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:59:13 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <10882981.EefWYptSeI@freud>
References: <20120110205143.6FDCF21F86F9@ietfa.amsl.com> <4F19DFCF.7090608@cs.tcd.ie> <CAJNg7V++zwLYkZHbtVyz_0eK8zEZWGE2fVsA3fFsqL1z1696hA@mail.gmail.com> <10882981.EefWYptSeI@freud>
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:59:13 -0600
Message-ID: <CAP0PwYaHaTs0hi0bDE0Nb-z5SaoN23j-c7okazLp-npjn_MG0g@mail.gmail.com>
From: Jorge Contreras <cntreras@gmail.com>
To: Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="bcaec53f35f96492c404b720d567"
Cc: antitrust-policy@ietf.org, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>, Marshall Eubanks <marshall.eubanks@gmail.com>, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
Subject: Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those with no competitive interests?
X-BeenThere: antitrust-policy@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Discuss the need for an antitrust or competition policy for the IETF." <antitrust-policy.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/antitrust-policy>, <mailto:antitrust-policy-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/antitrust-policy>
List-Post: <mailto:antitrust-policy@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:antitrust-policy-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/antitrust-policy>, <mailto:antitrust-policy-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:59:15 -0000

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org> wrote:

>
>
> P.S. We talked to the anti-trust authorities when we established our patent
> policy and they told us there are no worries. So it is good to ask them
> questions like "is our process transparent enough?" They may just say
> "yes".


I'm just wondering who "we" are.  I've been representing the IETF since
1998 and don't recall any discussion with EU competition authorities about
our IPR policy.  Did this happen before my time, maybe in the RFC 2026 era?
 If so, I'd love to hear more about who participated in this discussion,
what was asked, and what the authorities said.

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email