Re: [antitrust-policy] Who enforces an Antitrust Policy for the IETF

Marshall Eubanks <marshall.eubanks@gmail.com> Fri, 20 January 2012 21:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [antitrust-policy] Who enforces an Antitrust Policy for the IETF
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On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
> John:
>
>>> If you observe behavior in violation of these guidelines at an IETF
>>> meeting, please do not be silent; formally object.
>>
>> What does that mean?  Let's say I hear two guys in the next row
>> talking about product pricing.  I say, hey, you can't talk about that.
>> They laugh at me and continue.  Now what?
>>
>> Or if this instruction or something like it goes into the Note Well,
>> it's making every IETF attendee responsible for the behavior of
>> everyone else.  If someone's hauled into court, they're going to say
>> well, gee, the IETF specifically tells people to police anti-trust
>> violations, nobody said anything to us about it, so the IETF agreed
>> with what we did.
>>
>> I have trouble imagining a problem this mess is supposed to solve that
>> is anywhere near as ugly as the swamp it's leading into.
>
> I'd like to think that we do not need to assign someone to enforce the antitrust policy.
>
> I see them a guidelines for proper behavior.  When we see someone do something surprising on a mail list (such as posting a job opening) they person gets a lot of private messages to stop.  If they continue, public messages follow.  This usually gets the behavior corrected.  This is in like with the story shared by Brian.
>

+1

Marshall

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