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Re: [antitrust-policy] Update on legal advice re: antitrust

Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org> Wed, 16 February 2022 21:22 UTC

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On 16/02/2022 21:52, Jorge Contreras wrote:
> "having lawyers argue with each other about it" -- one could also say 
> that is the best route to ultimate truth (or not)...

:)

It is also a question which regional competition law and horizontal 
guidelines one wants to target (single, multiple?). There are differences.

The real challenge IMHO is to create a system that is reasonably 
waterproof but not bureaucratic at all. By bureaucratic I mean things 
like the reading of the antitrust guidelines at every meeting of every 
WG like in the de-jure orgs and some other consortia.

Those being just my 2 cents from the sideline ... Now back to lurking mode

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  Regards
  Rigo

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