Re: [antitrust-policy] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-05.txt
Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Sat, 11 March 2023 07:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [antitrust-policy] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-05.txt
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If that change to the bullet (to become "entering into ..." resolves the objections, then I am happy to make that change. I would like to hear from those who have been expressing disagreement with the bullet. Yours, Joel On 3/11/2023 12:36 AM, Pete Resnick wrote: > > On 10 Mar 2023, at 19:46, Joel Halpern wrote: > > * Seeking clarifications about IPR disclosures, in a context > when any such clarifications could be reasonably perceived as > entering into group negotiations of IPR terms. > > The comma there is grammatically incorrect and, while that seems like > an editorial nit, maybe that's what's causing the hiccup for me. Try this: > > * Entering into group negotiations of IPR terms or any discussion > that could be reasonably perceived as doing so. > > "Seeking clarifications about IPR disclosures" is an not a problem and > putting it separately as the first clause of the bullet makes it seem > like that alone needs to be done with caution. It's only when the > discussion turns to negotiating IPR terms (or things that smell like > that) that problems come up. If you say the above instead, it would > cause me less heartburn. > > I also agree with Stephan's point about restructuring 4.1 as a bullet > list. Right now, even though the intro phrase says "These topics > include", some of the things in the list are not topics; some are > "discussions" and some only are problematic if the discussion of the > topic is is among competitors. Rewriting this as a bullet list and > making sure the actor is identified would help clarify for me. > > pr > > -- > Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ > All connections to the world are tenuous at best >
- [antitrust-policy] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-hal… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [antitrust-policy] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-hal… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [antitrust-policy] I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Jay Daley
- Re: [antitrust-policy] I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [antitrust-policy] I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [antitrust-policy] I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Pete Resnick
- Re: [antitrust-policy] I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [antitrust-policy] I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [antitrust-policy] I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [antitrust-policy] I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Joel Halpern