Re: [antitrust-policy] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-05.txt

[Stephen Farrell <[e-mail]>]

Hi Joel,

On 11/03/2023 07:43, Joel Halpern wrote:
> If that change to the bullet (to become "entering into ..." resolves the 
> objections, then I am happy to make that change.   I would like to hear 
> from those who have been expressing disagreement with the bullet.

I suspect you might be better to post OLD/NEW text or
a PR if there's a git repo - since the problems I and
maybe others are having with the text in 4.x seems to
mainly be related to over-broad descriptions of dodgy
situations that ends up also possibly covering things
that are just not dodgy, having replacement text is a
good plan.

Cheers,
S.


> 
> Yours,
> 
> Joel
> 
> On 3/11/2023 12:36 AM, Pete Resnick wrote:
>>
>> On 10 Mar 2023, at 19:46, Joel Halpern wrote:
>>
>>       * Seeking clarifications about IPR disclosures, in a context
>>         when any such clarifications could be reasonably perceived as
>>         entering into group negotiations of IPR terms.
>>
>> The comma there is grammatically incorrect and, while that seems like 
>> an editorial nit, maybe that's what's causing the hiccup for me. Try 
>> this:
>>
>>   * Entering into group negotiations of IPR terms or any discussion
>>     that could be reasonably perceived as doing so.
>>
>> "Seeking clarifications about IPR disclosures" is an not a problem and 
>> putting it separately as the first clause of the bullet makes it seem 
>> like that alone needs to be done with caution. It's only when the 
>> discussion turns to negotiating IPR terms (or things that smell like 
>> that) that problems come up. If you say the above instead, it would 
>> cause me less heartburn.
>>
>> I also agree with Stephan's point about restructuring 4.1 as a bullet 
>> list. Right now, even though the intro phrase says "These topics 
>> include", some of the things in the list are not topics; some are 
>> "discussions" and some only are problematic if the discussion of the 
>> topic is is among competitors. Rewriting this as a bullet list and 
>> making sure the actor is identified would help clarify for me.
>>
>> pr
>>
>> -- 
>> Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/
>> All connections to the world are tenuous at best
>>
> 
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