Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those with no competitive interests?

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Stephen Farrell
<stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>
>
> On 01/20/2012 09:48 PM, Jorge Contreras wrote:
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>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Stephen Farrell
>> <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>wrote:
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>>>
>>> I have no skin in the money games around the IETF these
>>> days since I currently work in a University.
>>>
>>
>> You may not have a personal financial interest, but some universities
>> these
>> days make a lot of money from their patent licensing programs,
>
>
> We don't as it happens. But we do pay people to try (badly as
> it turns out;-)
>
>
>> and many
>>
>> more would like to.  Also, universities can and are sued for antitrust
>> violations, and there is no 'academic' immunity from these sorts of
>> claims.
>
>
> I've never heard of that. Got some examples that might be relevant
> to the IETF? (Not of IPR or being sued in general, but specific to
> anti-trust/competition law.)
>
>
>>  Thus, your employer/university is not that different than a company in
>> this regard.
>
>
> University is just one kind of employer. Some people self-fund
> in various ways.
>
> My point is that this policy assumes that all participants can
> in principle be anti-competition which seems like nonsense to
> me.
>
> I hate building a policy based on nonsense.
>

Do you think that Universities should not have to file IPR disclosures ? If
I get a patent on technology used in RFC X, can I decide that I don't
need to file
an IPR disclosure because I don't intend to charge royalties  with
anybody in the WG ?

I don't see the difference. The IETF shouldn't be in the job of making
these sorts of decisions.

Regards
Marshall

> S
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>>>
>>> ...
>>> Why can't I just ignore all this, since I'm not being
>>> anti-competitive even if I do some of these supposedly
>>> bad things?
>>>
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>> see above
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