Re: [antitrust-policy] Comments on the draft

Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org> Tue, 17 October 2023 06:52 UTC

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From: Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org>
To: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>, "antitrust-policy@ietf.org" <antitrust-policy@ietf.org>
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Hi Philip,
Can you please be slightly less cryptic?  Specifically:
-What was “this issue”?  (link to a previous email is fine)
-A more detailed characterization of the “separate standards organization” would help me to make up my mind whether this hearsay of alleged behavior were relevant to the IETF.
-And, when was this alleged incident?
Thanks,
Stephan


From: antitrust-policy <antitrust-policy-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
Date: Monday, October 16, 2023 at 18:46
To: antitrust-policy@ietf.org <antitrust-policy@ietf.org>
Subject: [antitrust-policy] Comments on the draft
As one of the people who has been raising this issue, I would like to share a summary of the specific incident that raised my concern.

The specific issue raised was in a separate standards organization and involved an alleged threat by an employee of a dominant application provider to effectively terminate the ability of service providers to operate if they implemented a particular feature.

That situation has since been remedied and said individual is no longer employed by said provider, nor do they participate in any standards process that I am aware of.

I was not present for the meeting in question but I did follow up with people inside the IETF and the senior management of the company in question.