Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust/
Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> Fri, 24 February 2023 06:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust/
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On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 4:13 PM Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote: > I think picking one person to be responsible for enforcement is a very bad > idea. > This document is informational, so the reader needs to know who is responsible for such policy, as any policy in any_organisation/IETF should have a way of control or responsibility noticed. The key_recommend_section within the draft gives recommendations but I did not know if I should (as all participants) be responsible for such anti-trust, or one person or two, etc. > > There are thousands of IETF participants and probably hundreds of thousands > of conversations. > the most important discus_ones are the IESG conversations which may be affected by the related policy, IMHO this policy is related to organisation managements not staff or participants. > Nobody can enforce compliance across that. Second, picking one person as > the compliance person would be painting a big target marker on their back, > for any patent-happy entity that wishes to sue. > The authors need to decide to not ignore such important information the reader may want to know. However, I don't think it is a bad idea to give information about responsibilities within IETF, and if no one/some are responsible I think it will be good to add as information to the reader to understand. AB > > > *From: *Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> > *Date: *Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 1:00 AM > *To: *Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> > *Cc: *"antitrust-policy@ietf.org" <antitrust-policy@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [antitrust-policy] > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust/ > > > > I think one of the key recommendation is to add: (XXXX) is recommended > to be responsible to insure antitrust-policies and to monitor activities > that are related to this matters. > > IMHO the IETF chair, should be the responsible member within the document, > however, this document needs to inform us who is the member to be > monitoring this policy or who is the one that we can depend on. > > > > AB > > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 3:47 PM Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote: > > When this was dispatched, I said I would poke folks again. > > The authors would very much appreciate comments, opinions, and better > discussion of, this draft. We would like to be able to submit a > revision addressing concerns by the cutoff, to align with the ADs goal. > > Thank you, > > Joel > > _______________________________________________ > antitrust-policy mailing list > antitrust-policy@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/antitrust-policy > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/antitrust-policy__;!!GjvTz_vk!Rc9iyMxfvtXWtiThNAYh9lHoCN6yNVvKRiG5FLgk5eoS5rIaWP3FCaHBXRDqakKPIVb3y0q2jrVqY7MxeKD3hUM$> > >
- [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.org/d… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Brad Biddle
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Christian Huitema
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Salz, Rich
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Pete Resnick
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Brad Biddle
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Christian Huitema
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Rigo Wenning
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Russ Housley
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Russ Housley
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Lars Eggert
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Jay Daley
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Jay Daley
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Jay Daley
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Pete Resnick
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Abdussalam Baryun