Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust/
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Subject: Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust/
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Hiya, On 27/02/2023 15:42, Jay Daley wrote: > make it clearer that this is informational/educational then please speak up Please remove terms like "red flag" and change the terminology e.g. renaming to "4.1 Example topics better avoided" and "4.2 Topics where extra caution is warranted." I'm not sure it'll be possible to ever get the examples in 4.1 sufficiently crisp to be helpful and non-problematic, e.g, I don't think the following are inappropriate at all never mind "particularly inappropriate" nor that prudence would suggest avoiding 'em: - "product pricing" - we can and do discuss open-source as a positive and that's related to a price of zero (for e.g. the code) - "supply chains" - discussion of e.g. SolarWinds and similar supply chain attacks is valid Yes, there are discussions related to the above that ought not be part of IETF discourse, but the current wording seems wrong to me, and very hard (or impossible) to get "just right." Cheers, S.
- [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.org/d… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Christian Huitema
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Salz, Rich
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Pete Resnick
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Brad Biddle
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Brad Biddle
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Christian Huitema
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Rigo Wenning
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Russ Housley
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Russ Housley
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Lars Eggert
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Jay Daley
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Pete Resnick
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Joel Halpern
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Jay Daley
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [antitrust-policy] https://datatracker.ietf.o… Jay Daley