Re: [Apn] [Cats] FW: [Int-area] Intarea WG agenda

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Sun, 26 March 2023 05:12 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, "apn@ietf.org" <apn@ietf.org>
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Passing the information to the APN working group as well (thanks to Adrian for the hint)

-éric

From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
Organisation: Old Dog Consulting
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Date: Sunday, 26 March 2023 at 13:57
To: Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>, "cats@ietf.org" <cats@ietf.org>
Cc: "int-area@ietf.org" <int-area@ietf.org>, 'John Scudder' <jgs@juniper.net>, Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com>, 'Alvaro Retana' <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>, 'Andrew Alston' <andrew-ietf@liquid.tech>, 'James Guichard' <james.n.guichard@futurewei.com>
Subject: RE: [Cats] FW: [Int-area] Intarea WG agenda

Thanks Eric, that’s helpful.

The agenda slot is:

Tuesday, March 28, 2023

17:00-18:00 Tuesday Afternoon Session IV

The agenda item and related drafts are as shown below.

4. Service aware network (SAN) framework and data plane solutions  - Daniel Huang
draft-huang-intarea-san-framework-00
draft-ma-intarea-identification-header-of-san-00
draft-ma-intarea-encapsulation-of-san-header-00
draft-zhou-intarea-aware-route-san-database-00
draft-zhou-intarea-computing-segment-san-01
    20 mins

The work certainly seems related, but a quick reading suggests that the approach chosen is to mark the traffic according to the service and then route according to that marker. This seems (to me) to be closer to APNET proposals (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/apn/about/) where a charter is currently being developed and discussed with the IESG.

I would certainly encourage the authors with their work, but also I would invite them to try to contribute to existing work efforts and not create new ones where there is overlap.

Cheers,
Adrian


From: Cats <cats-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
Sent: 26 March 2023 05:35
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Subject: [Cats] FW: [Int-area] Intarea WG agenda

For information to the CATS WG as the INTAREA WG agenda includes individual drafts about "service aware network" (SAN). At first sight, those SAN drafts look pretty close to the CATS charter.

So, feel free to join us in INTAREA WG meeting (or on the mailing list).

Regards

-éric

From: Int-area <int-area-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:int-area-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Wassim Haddad <wassim.haddad=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:wassim.haddad=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>
Date: Sunday, 26 March 2023 at 13:07
To: Internet Area <int-area@ietf.org<mailto:int-area@ietf.org>>
Cc: "intarea-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:intarea-chairs@ietf.org>" <intarea-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:intarea-chairs@ietf.org>>
Subject: [Int-area] Intarea WG agenda

Hi,

The Intarea WG meeting agenda is available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/116/materials/agenda-116-intarea-01

Presenters, please upload your slides or send a copy to the chairs.


Thanks,
Wassim H.