Re: [Apn] [DMM] Regarding APN Usecase in Mobile Core

"Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong)" <gengxuesong@huawei.com> Thu, 21 January 2021 02:23 UTC

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From: "Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong)" <gengxuesong@huawei.com>
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Hi Uma and all,

I have read the document and got a few questions:
In my understanding, in the UPF where traffic policy is enforced, the fine-granularity services are provided. Then what fields in the GTP-u encapsulation indicates the traffic's service requirements? When a GTP-u tunnel goes into a SRv6 policy, according to which fields in the GTP-u encapsulation the DSCP is generated? We know that there are parameters such as 5QI/QCI and QFI, whether they are associated with a GTP-u tunnel?

Best
Xuesong
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Subject: Re: [Apn] [DMM] Regarding APN Usecase in Mobile Core

Hi Robin,

In-line..

Cheers!
--
Uma C.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 5:25 AM Lizhenbin <lizhenbin@huawei.com<mailto:lizhenbin@huawei.com>> wrote:
Hi APNers and DMMers,
I remember that in the mobile core scenarios the GTP-u tunnel can be set up according to the user and application requirements, but I do not understand the details.

[Uma]: Obviously, the best reference for GTP-U is TS 29.281. However, uou should look into https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-5g-uplane-analysis/ where lot more details and other references related this topic was analyzed (primarily started after/during REL-15, when  any other use plane other than GTP-U is worthwhile is debated for 5G N9 interface).

I think when the packet tunneled by GTP-u traverses the APN-based transport network, it may be mapped to the corresponding tunnel according to the user and application requirements to implement the uniform service. If you are familiar with the principle of GTP-u in the mobile core, please help provide some details.


Best Regards,
Zhenbin (Robin)


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