Re: [Apn] [DMM] Regarding APN Usecase in Mobile Core

Indeed & it's better to disambiguate sooner if APN@IETF folks are seeking
to work with cellular domain in general.

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Uma C.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:27 PM David Lake <d.lake@surrey.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi
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> EEK!   This could be a problem then if we have TWO definitions of APN….
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> David
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> *From:* Uma Chunduri <umac.ietf@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 18 January 2021 20:26
> *To:* Lake, David (PG/R - Elec Electronic Eng) <d.lake@surrey.ac.uk>
> *Cc:* Lizhenbin <lizhenbin@huawei.com>; apn@ietf.org; dmm <dmm@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Apn] [DMM] Regarding APN Usecase in Mobile Core
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> Hi David,
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> Many excellent points below w.r.t GTP-u and the Access Point Name (APN)
> which defines the network path for all cellular data connectivity.
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> However, I presume Robin was referring to a different APN -
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/apn/about/
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> Uma C.
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> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:10 PM David Lake <d.lake@surrey.ac.uk> wrote:
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> The APN provides the linkage between the application profile and the radio
> bearers.  GTP-u is manner by which the traffic is tunnelled to the anchor
> point and you MAY end up with different end points for each of the GTP
> bearers.
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> Traffic at both the UE and the PGW (in LTE – UPF in 5G) are directed to
> the correct APN by a Traffic Flow Template (TFT).  This is to ensure that
> traffic goes across both the correct radio bearer and is marked correctly
> in the IP network.
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> Users will often be unaware of multiple APNs on their UE; the most common
> hidden APN is one for VoLTE which, with the use of the TFT, will ensure
> that the VoIP frames (media) are put across the QCI 9 radio bearer and into
> the correct class on the IP network.  QCI 9 maps to a specific numerology
> on the Air Interface so that quality can be maintained for the voice call.
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> In theory, multiple APNs all with their own TFT rules and potentially
> multiple GTP-u tunnels could be used but this is very rarely done.
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> David
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> *From:* Apn <apn-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Uma Chunduri
> *Sent:* 18 January 2021 19:17
> *To:* Lizhenbin <lizhenbin@huawei.com>
> *Cc:* apn@ietf.org; dmm <dmm@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Apn] [DMM] Regarding APN Usecase in Mobile Core
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> Hi Robin,
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> In-line..
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> Cheers!
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> Uma C.
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> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 5:25 AM Lizhenbin <lizhenbin@huawei.com> wrote:
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> Hi APNers and DMMers,
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> I remember that in the mobile core scenarios the GTP-u tunnel can be set
> up according to the user and application requirements, but I do not
> understand the details.
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> [Uma]: Obviously, the best reference for GTP-U is TS 29.281. However, uou
> should look into
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-5g-uplane-analysis/
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> where lot more details and other references related this topic was analyzed
> (primarily started after/during REL-15, when  any other use plane other
> than GTP-U is worthwhile is debated for 5G N9 interface).
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> I think when the packet tunneled by GTP-u traverses the APN-based
> transport network, it may be mapped to the corresponding tunnel according
> to the user and application requirements to implement the uniform service.
> If you are familiar with the principle of GTP-u in the mobile core, please
> help provide some details.
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> Best Regards,
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> Zhenbin (Robin)
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