Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg-json-patch-01.txt
Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Thu, 12 April 2012 14:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg-json-patch-01.txt
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On 2012-03-21 10:11, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2012-03-21 07:55, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote: >> On 2012/03/21 6:40, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >> >>> Does there need to be one-and-only-one? >> >> In theory, not necessarily. In practice, not having a lot of variation >> usually helps. >> >>> Or I guess more accurately, do we need to say this is the one and only >>> way to do this? Seems like that closes the door to someone coming up >>> with a better idea. >> >> Fragment pointers into datastructures such as JSON isn't exactly a brand >> new field with lots of new possibilities. And XPointer has shown that >> making it too complicated cuts out most implementations. My proposal >> would be to somehow include an extensibility hatch, but then say this is >> the one and only one. > > In XML, as far as I understand, the escape hatch is that identifiers do > not allow brackets, and thus these are free for defining new addressing > schemes. So in JSON Pointer, we'd need to escape a few more characters > when using in fragment identifiers. > > Also, it seems this needs to be coordinated with a potential spec > defining a "+json" media type suffix... > ... It would be good if we made up our minds whether we are defining a fragment identifier syntax for application/json or not. My proposal is to keep things simple for now and thus not to do it; that implies removing or clarifying the examples in the spec. Best regards, Julian
- [apps-discuss] I-D Action: draft-ietf-appsawg-jso… internet-drafts
- Re: [apps-discuss] I-D Action: draft-ietf-appsawg… Vadim Zaliva
- Re: [apps-discuss] I-D Action: draft-ietf-appsawg… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] I-D Action: draft-ietf-appsawg… Mike Acar
- Re: [apps-discuss] I-D Action: draft-ietf-appsawg… Paul C. Bryan
- Re: [apps-discuss] I-D Action: draft-ietf-appsawg… Paul C. Bryan
- [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg-jso… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Paul C. Bryan
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Paul C. Bryan
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Paul C. Bryan
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Paul C. Bryan
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Mike Acar
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] I-D Action: draft-ietf-appsawg… Mike Acar
- Re: [apps-discuss] I-D Action: draft-ietf-appsawg… Paul C. Bryan
- Re: [apps-discuss] I-D Action: draft-ietf-appsawg… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] I-D Action: draft-ietf-appsawg… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] I-D Action: draft-ietf-appsawg… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Mark Nottingham