Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party registrations

"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Tue, 15 November 2011 02:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party registrations
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On 2011/11/15 11:15, Larry Masinter wrote:
> Who should a third-party registrar list as the "change controller" ?

Good question. I already proposed that it be answered in Ned's document. 
See below.

Regards,   Martin.

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> From: apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexey Melnikov
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> On 15/11/2011 01:43, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote:

>> For example, you could put in a section 4.12, (Non-)Requirements for
>> Contact Information, Author, and Change Controller, saying explicitly
>> that third-party registrations are welcome.
> Exactly.
>> This could also explain what in such a case contact information,
>> author, and change controller should be. I'd assume that contact
>> information goes to the submitter, but change controller stays with
>> the company or individual that created the format, but you'll know
>> better what's current practice. If I did a third-party registration,
>> this would be the place where I'd really not know which way to go.