Re: [apps-discuss] Webfinger & acct: draft
"Mykyta Yevstifeyev (М. Євстіфеєв)" <evnikita2@gmail.com> Sat, 19 November 2011 07:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Webfinger & acct: draft
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19.11.2011 8:58, Blaine Cook wrote: > +1; defining the actual link relations should be done outside the > webfinger spec, most likely as part of RFC 5988 as Paul mentioned. > > The relations are perhaps the trickiest bit of webfinger to > standardise, but thankfully 5988 offers guidance; new relations should > be defined as specifically as possible, with obvious relation overlap > being aggregated into more general identifiers, and eventually being > submitted to the registry once sufficient deployment mandates it. How many of them will we have to define? Can we at all predict how will Webfinger be used? Mykyta Yevstifeyev > > b. > > On 18 November 2011 23:53, Gonzalo Salgueiro <gsalguei@cisco.com > <mailto:gsalguei@cisco.com>> wrote: > > I agree. Both the notion of registering link relations and the > possibility of a broader usage of the acct: URI beyond Webfinger > really require some group discussion to help us decide if the > draft remains self-contained as a single document or gets broken > into several. > > Regards, > > Gonzalo > > > > On Nov 18, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Paul E. Jones wrote: > >> Walter, >> Thanks for your feedback on the text. I’ll be revising the >> document accordingly. Based on comments from you and others, >> section 4 will likely undergo heavy restructuring :-) >> For the webfinger link relations underwebfinger.net >> <http://webfinger.net>, are those that should go into the >> existing IANA registry for link relations that was defined by RFC >> 5988? >> (Seehttp://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xml) >> In any case, registration of link relations can certainly be done >> as a part of this specification or it could be done separately. >> My own opinion is that it would be better to define link >> relations separately, but I’m willing to follow the group opinion >> on this one. Even I don’t know what thosewebfinger.net >> <http://webfinger.net>relations are :-) >> Paul >> *From:*apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org >> <mailto:apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org>[mailto:apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org >> <mailto:apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org>]*On Behalf Of*Goix Laurent >> Walter >> *Sent:*Friday, November 18, 2011 6:34 AM >> *To:*apps-discuss@ietf.org <mailto:apps-discuss@ietf.org> >> *Subject:*[apps-discuss] Webfinger & acct: draft >> Paul, all, >> Thank you for starting addressing this standardization topic >> within IETF. Webfinger (and acct:) indeed are being increasingly >> used and the whole community would benefit from a well-referenced >> specification for it. >> Here are some comments on the draft: >> -At this stage acct: scheme is needed from a formal point of view >> only I guess, so there may not be the need for a full addr-spec >> support. >> -I also support the point raised by Mykyta around i18n. I guess >> as we are targeting user addressing more than resource addressing >> in general, and given the rise of Internet & social networks in >> non-ascii countries it would be important to target a dual >> URI/IRI scheme (following the path of the mailto rfc6068bis draft) >> -If no other spec is currently using the acct: scheme then it may >> be kept in the webfinger spec, but some existing specifications >> may be interested in referencing it as primary/preferred >> addressing mechanism (independently from webfinger), e.g. >> Opensocial, activitystrea.ms <http://activitystrea.ms> >> -From a more structural point of view it may be useful to better >> distinguish the sections related to the scheme from the ones >> relates to webfinger. Right now 4.1 and 4.2 are very different in >> purpose and may become 4 and 5. Current section 5 could become a >> subsection of webfinger (say 5.2) >> -It may also be good to distinguish the behavior on the server >> side (creating/exposing the descriptor and its content) from the >> actual discovery behavior from the client. >> -Webfinger further uses specific link “rels”, which now are >> referenced underwebfinger.net <http://webfinger.net>domain. I >> guess some of these rels would need to be registered as pure >> tokens (no URI), e.g. “avatar”, “profile-page” and specified in >> this spec. >> -Reference 8 can now be updated to rfc6415 >> Cheers >> Walter >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *Telecom Italia >> *Laurent-Walter Goix >> Innovation & Industry Relations, Research & Prototyping, Future >> Internet >> Piazza Einaudi 8 - 20124 Milano (Italy) >> Tel. +39 026213445 <tel:%2B39%20026213445> >> Mob. +39 3356114196 <tel:%2B39%203356114196> >> Fax +39 0641869055 <tel:%2B39%200641869055> >> Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati >> esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o >> qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste >> informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. 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- [apps-discuss] Webfinger & acct: draft Goix Laurent Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Webfinger & acct: draft Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] Webfinger & acct: draft Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [apps-discuss] Webfinger & acct: draft Blaine Cook
- Re: [apps-discuss] Webfinger & acct: draft Mykyta Yevstifeyev (М. Євстіфеєв)
- Re: [apps-discuss] Webfinger & acct: draft Blaine Cook
- [apps-discuss] R: Webfinger & acct: draft Goix Laurent Walter