[apps-discuss] R: R: Last Call Expired: <draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-14.txt>

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Subject: [apps-discuss] R: R: Last Call Expired: <draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-14.txt>
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Dear Benoit, all

 

I submitted v16 of the Internet Draft.

 

I modified section 9.1.1 on the maintenance of the flowSelectorAlgorithm registry and fixed the editorial issue in section  6.1.1

 

I have also used MUST in section 6.1

 

Best regards,

 

Salvatore

 

 

Da: Benoit Claise [mailto:bclaise@cisco.com] 
Inviato: lunedì 15 aprile 2013 11:43
A: Salvatore D'Antonio
Cc: draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech@tools.ietf.org; ipfix-chairs@tools.ietf.org; 'S Moonesamy'; apps-discuss@ietf.org; iesg@ietf.org; 'Joel M. Halpern'; 'A. Jean Mahoney'; 'General Area Review Team'; 'IETF discussion list'; rahulp@cisco.com; ipfix@ietf.org
Oggetto: Re: R: Last Call Expired: <draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-14.txt>

 

Salvatore

Dear all,

 

A new version of the Internet Draft on Flow Selection Techniques has been submitted. It contains the following changes:

-          A new section illustrating the difference between Intermediate Flow Selection Process and Intermediate Selection Process has been added,

-          The sentence "In order to be compliant with this document, at least the Property  Match Filtering MUST be implemented." has been removed in Section 1,

-          “MUST” has been replaced with “SHOULD” in Section 5.1,

Actually, the feedback was:

In Section 1: 

  "In order to be compliant with this document, at least the Property 
   Match Filtering MUST be implemented." 

The above text is repeated in Section 5.1.  I suggest removing this sentence as it does not seem related to scope. 

My reading of the "MUST" is that it is being used for compliance instead of the reasons described in RFC 2119.  I suggest reviewing the usage of RFC 2119 key words in Section 5.1. 

So the solution is not to change MUST to SHOULD.
The question is whether "MUST" versus "must" must be used.
I understand the concern. For compliance reason with the PSAMP RFC 5475 (which is closely related) ...


 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5475#section-7> 7.  Parameters for the Description of Selection Techniques

   This section gives an overview of different alternative selection
   schemes and their required parameters.  In order to be compliant with
   PSAMP, at least one of proposed schemes MUST be implemented.
 

... I would keep the initial "MUST" from the previous draft version. 

-          “The flowSelectorAlgorithm registry is maintained by IANA." has been replaced with “IANA is requested to create the flowSelectorAlgorithm registry.”

-          The sentence "The registry can be updated when specifications of the new  technique(s) and any new Information Elements are provided." has been removed since it did not clarify how the registry will be managed.

-           Section 6.1.1 “Property Match Filtering” has been changed by adding some text on how Property Match Filtering can be  used by an Intermediate Flow Selection Process in the Metering Process, in the  Exporting Process and within an IPFIX Mediator.

When publishing a new version, please correct this editorial issue.

 " ... and Flow duration. in
   the An example is the selection of the largest ..."





 

Best regards,

 

Salvatore

 

Da: Benoit Claise [mailto:bclaise@cisco.com] 
Inviato: lunedì 8 aprile 2013 15:21
A: draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech@tools.ietf.org
Cc: ipfix-chairs@tools.ietf.org
Oggetto: Fwd: Last Call Expired: <draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-14.txt>

 

Dear authors,

The IETF last call has finished.
Can you please update your draft based on the feedback received.
Then I will progress it.

Regards, Benoit



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