Re: [apps-discuss] obs-date, was: APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-httpbis-p2-semantics-24
"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Wed, 30 October 2013 09:02 UTC
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Cc: ietf@ietf.org, apps-discuss@ietf.org, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>, draft-ietf-httpbis-p2-semantics.all@tools.ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, ietf-http-wg@w3.org
Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] obs-date, was: APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-httpbis-p2-semantics-24
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On 2013/10/29 10:26, Amos Jeffries wrote: > On 29/10/2013 8:22 a.m., John C Klensin wrote: >> My understanding is that the HTTPbis work is a rather major >> revision with at least some cases for which "get it right" is >> more important that complete backward compatibility, especially >> if there is a clear migration path. > > No. The focus on the WG has been to document what is actually *working* > and clarify existing HTTP behaviour in order to encourage interoperability. To clarify for people not too involved in the HTTPbis work: The HTTPbis WG has two main work items: 1) Moving HTTP 1.1 to Standard. That's what all the drafts are about that are currently under review and discussion in apps-discuss. For people familiar with Internet mail, that's somewhat similar to the work that happened when moving from RFCs 2821,... to RFCs 5321,... As such, it doesn't leave much room for innovation or even fixing stuff that looks broken from the outside, and the HTTPbis WG was particularly careful to avoid any such breakage. 2) HTTP 2.0: This is a completely new protocol design, so there is quite a bit of room for "getting things right", and stuff like using integers for representing dates (because the protocol is binary) is being considered. This on many fronts allows cleanup similar e.g. to what happened in EAI (Email Address Internationalization), because there's no deployed base to worry about. But HTTP 2.0 is not yet ready for general review. Regards, Martin.
- [apps-discuss] APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-httpb… S Moonesamy
- [apps-discuss] obs-date, was: APPSDIR review of d… Julian Reschke
- [apps-discuss] IANA issues, was: APPSDIR review o… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] obs-date, was: APPSDIR review … Julian Reschke
- [apps-discuss] content inspection in absence of m… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] content inspection in absence … S Moonesamy
- Re: [apps-discuss] content inspection in absence … Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] content inspection in absence … Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] obs-date, was: APPSDIR review … John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] obs-date, was: APPSDIR review … John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] obs-date, was: APPSDIR review … Amos Jeffries
- Re: [apps-discuss] IANA issues, was: APPSDIR revi… S Moonesamy
- Re: [apps-discuss] obs-date, was: APPSDIR review,… S Moonesamy
- Re: [apps-discuss] IANA issues, was: APPSDIR revi… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] content inspection in absence … Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] obs-date, was: APPSDIR review … Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] content inspection in absence … Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] content inspection in absence … S Moonesamy
- Re: [apps-discuss] content inspection in absence … Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] content inspection in absence … Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] content inspection in absence … S Moonesamy
- Re: [apps-discuss] content inspection in absence … Henry S. Thompson
- Re: [apps-discuss] content inspection in absence … Larry Masinter