Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)
"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Mon, 23 April 2012 07:15 UTC
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Cc: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>, Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com>, oauth@ietf.org, 'Apps Discuss' <apps-discuss@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)
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On 2012/04/21 11:41, Stephen Farrell wrote: > On 04/20/2012 03:40 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: >> >> Why not MUST ASN.1 while you're at it? JSON has won in case >> you'all haven't noticed it. > > Well, I also remember when XML won over ASN.1, or > was that some RPC thing? Seems like a new format wins > about every five years or so, once the last winner > gets enough crap added. (JSON pointer seems like the > start of a nice slippery slope to me.) There's a bit of that indeed. However, as others have noted, JSON is indeed better suited for exchanging *data* between programs, in particular between scripting languages, because their main datatypes are numbers and strings, and their main data structures are arrays and hashes (or whatever they are called). In contrast to that, XML originated as a document format. It's way better than JSON for documents, and for mixed document/data situations, but if all you do is exchanging data (structures) between programs, JSON wins. Regards, Martin.
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Mike Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Bob Wyman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Mike Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Tim Bray
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Bob Wyman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Derek Atkins
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Kevin Marks
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Bob Wyman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Mike Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… John Panzer
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Eran Hammer
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… William Mills
- [apps-discuss] R: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simpl… Goix Laurent Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Eran Hammer
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Eran Hammer
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… John Bradley
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Derek Atkins
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Christian Weiske
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Blaine Cook
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… John Panzer
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Bob Wyman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Pelle Wessman
- [apps-discuss] R: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simpl… Goix Laurent Walter
- [apps-discuss] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discover… Michiel de Jong
- Re: [apps-discuss] R: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. S… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] R: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. S… Bob Wyman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Dick Hardt
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Mike Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… John Panzer
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Mike Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Eran Hammer
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… William Mills
- Re: [apps-discuss] R: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. S… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] R: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. S… Bob Wyman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] R: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. S… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Tim Bray
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Mike Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Tim Bray
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Mike Jones
- [apps-discuss] R: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simpl… Goix Laurent Walter
- [apps-discuss] R: R: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Si… Goix Laurent Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] R: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. S… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Pelle Wessman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… William Mills
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Daniel Renfer
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Tim Bray
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… John Bradley
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Derek Atkins
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Michael Thomas
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Michael Thomas
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Eran Hammer
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Michael Thomas
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… John Bradley
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… John Bradley
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Eran Hammer
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… George Fletcher
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Mike Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Bob Wyman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Tim Bray
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Derek Atkins
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Michael Thomas
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Derek Atkins
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Derek Atkins
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Michael Thomas
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Kevin Marks
- Re: [apps-discuss] [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simp… Michael Thomas