6LowApp: Application protocols for 6LoWPAN and other LLN
Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Mon, 06 July 2009 10:56 UTC
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Subject: 6LowApp: Application protocols for 6LoWPAN and other LLN
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The 6LoWPAN and ROLL WGs are laying the groundwork to make the Wireless Embedded Internet a reality, but what application protocols will we use? Request-response protocols like HTTP are a poor fit to a communication model with battery-operated, mostly sleeping nodes. In addition, the usual data formats (both headers and body) are perceived to be too chatty for the 50-60 byte payloads possible in LoWPANs and to require too much code for the 8-bit and 16-bit processors dominating the Internet of Things. Still, it would be a mistake to start a new silo of application protocols that do not benefit from existing application area Internet experience. At IETF75, we will hold a Bar BOF to scope out possible IETF work and maybe form an opinion on which part should be done in which IETF area. Tentative information is at http://u.nu/6jfh = http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/BarBofs/IETF75/6LowApp (and you are welcome to contribute to this Wiki page). -> Please tell us whether the envisaged date and time of ->Tue 18:30<- will work for you! A first version of a problem statement (where the above paragraph was stolen from) is at: http://tools.ietf.org/id/6lowapp (draft-bormann-6lowpan-6lowapp-problem-00.txt) I will start planning an agenda for the Bar BOF soon, so if you have something to say that would help in this conversation, please tell me (with an estimated amount of time). Gruesse, Carsten
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