Re: [apps-discuss] +exi

Paul Duffy <paduffy@cisco.com> Fri, 10 February 2012 18:54 UTC

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I can review.  I took the AI from Zigbee Alliance

I'm going to propose SEP2 adopt what I outlined below until/if directed 
otherwise.

We have an ongoing interop schedule for which we must meet spec content 
deadlines.

Cheers


On 2/10/2012 4:28 AM, Zach Shelby wrote:
> Hi,
>
> That's right, slipped my todo list. Pointers to fairly similar documents appreciated as a template, first time writing this kind of draft.
>
> Paul, let's keep in touch directly regarding this.
>
> Zach
>
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 4:52 AM, psaintan wrote:
>
>> As I recall, Zach Shelby was going to write a short draft about the
>> registration requirements for +exi...
>>
>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss/current/msg03981.html
>>
>> I haven't seen that pop out yet.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On 2/9/12 12:54 PM, "Paul Duffy"<paduffy@cisco.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> We are closing this SEP2 issue in the next few days.
>>>
>>> Consensus seems to be (?):
>>>
>>> Content_Type: application/sep+xml
>>>
>>> ... or ...
>>>
>>> Content_Type: application/sep+exi
>>>
>>> The first indicating POX-to-native objects processing only, the second
>>> indicating EXI-to-native processing (no intermediate XML ... its not a
>>> compression).  May be further extended to support variants of EXI
>>> processing.
>>>
>>> Going once, going twice, ....
>>>
>>> We need to get this registered with IANA, etc.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2011 7:11 PM, Martin Thomson wrote:
>>>> On 18 December 2011 06:34, Zach Shelby<zach@sensinode.com>   wrote:
>>>>> I don't find the SchemaId all that useful. First of all, you need to invoke
>>>>> your EXI parser to even get at that. It is more useful to immediately look
>>>>> at the content-type to decide which parser to throw a representation at. A
>>>>> strictly defined foo+exi registration would tell you that nicely.
>>>> ISTM that a link relation type for schema would make some sort of
>>>> difference.  The JSON schema draft had a "describedby" relation type
>>>> that might fit the bill (though "schema" is shorter).
>>>>