Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg-json-pointer-00
Mike Acar <macar@cloudmark.com> Fri, 02 March 2012 22:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg-json-pointer-00
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On 03/01/2012 01:45 PM, Paul C. Bryan wrote: > On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 12:14 -0800, Mike Acar wrote: >> There's also the question of JSON documents with different encodings; > Since they're logically the same underlying Unicode representations, I'm > not sure there's any issue to consider here. Probably not in practice; as you and I discussed off-list, most implementations will not actually be working on the JSON texts themselves. >> Another issue is that the evaluation scheme implies some application >> semantics. >> It's easy to imagine a case where a Pointer refers to a deep hierarchy, >> e.g. /a/b/c/d, and the application semantics of following it are to >> create automatically any non-existent intermediate objects. >> >> My initial thought was that the Pointer RFC should explicitly say that >> specs which use it (e.g. Patch) should define semantics for ambiguous >> cases (non-unique or non-existent member names, array index out of >> bounds, etc). There is another case: What to do if a non-terminal reference token names a value which is not a structured type; e.g. { "a" : "b" } How should you interpret "/a/c/d"? For Patch this should be an error, but another application might promote the value of "a" from a string to an object or array. If the Pointer RFC says this MAY be an error, it disallows those semantics. >> That can still result in a user of Pointer having to implement it >> himself, if there are no implementations which offer him precisely >> what he needs. >> >> Is it preferrable to explicitly say "You must make these decisions >> for your use case" instead of "Behavior in these cases is >> undefined"? > > I'm not sure. I'm open to suggestions from the apps working group... -- Mike Acar - - macar at cloudmark dot com
- [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg-jso… Mike Acar
- Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Tim Bray
- [apps-discuss] Identifier comparison in draft-iet… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Paul C. Bryan
- Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Tim Bray
- Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Paul C. Bryan
- Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Mike Acar
- Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Mike Acar
- Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-ietf-appsawg… Murray S. Kucherawy
- [apps-discuss] json-pointer #5 - semantics [was: … Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] json-pointer #5 - semantics [w… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] json-pointer #5 - semantics [w… Mike Acar
- Re: [apps-discuss] json-pointer #5 - semantics [w… Paul C. Bryan
- Re: [apps-discuss] json-pointer #5 - semantics [w… Martin Thomson
- Re: [apps-discuss] json-pointer #5 - semantics [w… Paul C. Bryan
- Re: [apps-discuss] json-pointer #5 - semantics [w… Martin Thomson
- Re: [apps-discuss] json-pointer #5 - semantics [w… Mark Nottingham