Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party registrations

[Graham Klyne <[e-mail]>]

On 15/11/2011 02:15, Larry Masinter wrote:
> Who should a third-party registrar list as the "change controller" ?

I think the attribute "change controller" belongs to a notion of registries as 
extension-of-standards.  If we move towards registries-as-documentation then I 
think this becomes less important; maybe record "original specifier" instead. 
Or nothing at all, since this information should be available in the linked 
specification document (if there is one).

#g
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Alexey Melnikov
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:13 AM
> To: "Martin J. Dürst"
> Cc: Roy Fielding; Ned Freed; [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party registrations
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> On 15/11/2011 01:43, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote:
>> Hello Ned, others,
>>
>> On 2011/11/15 4:33, Ned Freed wrote:
>>
>>>>> ENCOURAGE the public to register any names that they have seen in
>>>>> deployed software. (same for URI schemes)
>>>
>>>> I think third-party registration is indeed something we should
>>>> encourage more.
>>>
>>> How do you propose we do that?
>>
>> It seems that currently, people don't even know that it is possible.
>> So the first step is to make this more known. On another list, you
>> write: "We have always allowed registrations by any interested party."
>> That's apparently true, but is it done because nowhere in RFC 4288 it
>> says it's not possible? Then making it explicit in
>> draft-freed-media-type-regs should help.
> +1. To be honest I didn't know that this procedure was to be expected.
> In all cases I was expecting that some representative of the company/organization that defined the media type should be involved in a registration, even if somebody else does the work to actually document it.
>> For example, you could put in a section 4.12, (Non-)Requirements for
>> Contact Information, Author, and Change Controller, saying explicitly
>> that third-party registrations are welcome.
> Exactly.
>> This could also explain what in such a case contact information,
>> author, and change controller should be. I'd assume that contact
>> information goes to the submitter, but change controller stays with
>> the company or individual that created the format, but you'll know
>> better what's current practice. If I did a third-party registration,
>> this would be the place where I'd really not know which way to go.
>>
>> You can also add pointers to that new section, or just mention the
>> fact, in other places where somebody might potentially look. As an
>> example, in
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-freed-media-type-regs-01#section-5.5,
>> you could say that in addition to providing comments, new
>> registrations and change requests by third parties are also possible.
>>
>> The next step would then be to put text saying "Media Types may also
>> be registered by third parties." or so on the relevant pages at IANA
>> (e.g. http://www.iana.org/cgi-bin/mediatypes.pl and
>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/index.html).
>>
>>
>> Regards,   Martin.
> Best Regards,
> Alexey
>
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