Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful

Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Wed, 19 September 2012 22:11 UTC

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From: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Francis Galiegue <fgaliegue@gmail.com> wrote:
> And you'd have remembered, also, that I _explicitly said_ that they
> were not submitted yet because feedback was needed.

Well, we submit Internet-Drafts because feedback is needed :)  It's
quite OK to submit a badly incomplete/unfinished I-D; indeed, I'd say
that that's the only way to get started and make progress towards a
Standards-Track RFC.

Nico
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