Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group charter proposal
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 16 April 2013 00:35 UTC
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Cc: Scott Kitterman <scott@kitterman.com>, apps-discuss@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group charter proposal
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On 04/16/2013 01:15 AM, Dave Crocker wrote: > >>> Well, that's what we originally submitted for chartering, but at >>> least one AD didn't like it. >> >> Right, but the direction that the AD didn't like it was that the >> previous proposal constrained the working group too much. > > He didn't seem to want any meaningful constraint. While he, you, or > whoever might feel that's fine, the folks currently holding the spec > need more assurance of stability for the specification than that, given > how recent the investment in it has been. I guess I'm the "he" above. I've no idea what Dave means by "meaningful constraint." (That may be just down to misinterpretations though. Hard to tell.) I continue to argue for the same handling that the IETF used for DKIM and XMPP. That seems to have worked well twice. I'm quite surprised the DMARC group seem so much more concerned about stupid changes than either the XMPP or DKIM folk, esp since there seems to be quite an overlap between the DKIM and DMARC groups. (Please do correct me if I'm wrong about that overlap; its quite possible.) I had a real problem with the previous proposed charter. I'm not sure yet if I do with this one (while still preferring doing what we did with DKIM/XMPP.) In order to know if I've a problem with this one, I think I need to read the "base" spec (which I've yet to do) because the current proposal seems to be to have the ISE and chartering processes run in parallel (which I find very odd). I suspect its very likely I will have a problem with that, unless the ISE RFC has issued before the IETF WG chartering process starts. (Only then can IETF folk decide if they're ok with a new WG, since only then will the ISE RFC text be final; but there is a chance that the "base" spec is so good that its obvious, so I will read it first.) And just in case that previous paragraph was confusing: I continue to argue for the same handling that the IETF used for DKIM and XMPP:-) S.
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group charte… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… J. Trent Adams
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- [apps-discuss] DMARC and the conflict of extensio… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] DMARC and the conflict of exte… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] DMARC and the conflict of exte… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] DMARC and the conflict of exte… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] DMARC and the conflict of exte… MH Michael Hammer (5304)
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… J. Trent Adams
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… J. Trent Adams
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman