Re: [apps-discuss] 答复: font/*
Tony Hansen <tony@att.com> Sun, 13 November 2011 14:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] 答复: font/*
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application/fontformat-truetype perhaps, but certainly not application/fontformat-arial.The first is a media format, whereas the latter mixes in a non-concrete look and feel. Tony Hansen On 11/13/2011 7:02 AM, TianLinyi wrote: > why not define something like this: > application/fontformat-arial > > define a top level type may not be needed > > _______________________________________ > 发件人: apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org [apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 Tony Hansen [tony@att.com] > 发送时间: 2011年11月13日 8:57 > 到: apps-discuss@ietf.org > 主题: Re: [apps-discuss] font/* > > On 11/12/2011 6:27 AM, t.petch wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Martin J. Dürst"<duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> >> To: "t.petch"<ietfc@btconnect.com> >> Cc:<dcrocker@bbiw.net>;<apps-discuss@ietf.org> >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:47 AM >> >> >>> On 2011/11/10 18:06, t.petch wrote: >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> My bibles say >>>> >>>> Type(face) Family; Courier, Futura, Century Schoolbook, .. >>>> Typeface; one of the above with a defined >>>> - Style: Roman, Italic >>>> - Weight: Light, Semibold, Bold, ... >>>> - Width: Ultracondensed, Condensed, Expanded, ... >>>> Type Font; one of the above with a defined Size >>>> - eg 12-point >>> As I said before in a mail to Dave, the last point worked well for lead >>> type or bitmap fonts, but technology has moved beyond. >> Martin >> >> The concepts have not changed and remain useful, IMO, in any discussion >> on presentation. What has changed is the implementation detail so when >> I download a new package to my PC, then it will apply to all Fonts, within >> a Typeface, as opposed to having a separate module for each Font. >> (Incidentally, my bibles all relate to laser printing ie to modern technology >> and have nothing to do with lead:-). >> >> But more significantly, as other posts have clarified for me, this thread >> is nothing to do with fonts but with type definition languages, so perhaps >> it should be 'type/*'. > I've seen several hints of wanting to do web Accept-style queries along > the line of > > Accept: font/arial, font/comicsans > > What is it that is really desired? > > While this sounds like it might be a nice capability, it really doesn't > agree with what media types are all about. The Arial font can be > described in many different font file formats. > > Media types are more for describing things like: > MMMM/datafork-truetype > MMMM/intellifont > MMMM/postscriptfont > MMMM/truedocfont > MMMM/truetype > MMMM/webopenfont > > (where MMMM is some prefix yet to be determined), within which you can > have a description of many different fonts, including Arial and ComicSans. > > ======= > > *IF* we were to define a top-level media type, I do *not* think it > should be named "font", but instead should name it "fontformat" or > something like that. I think naming it "font" just leads people to have > false expectations. > > ======= > > I notice that if "application" were used for font format file names, > some of the font format names would need to include the word "font" as > part of the name. For example, "application/postscript" can not be used > for the font format defined in the postscript standard. Instead, it > would have to be "application/postscriptfont". This *could* be taken an > argument for using "fontformat" as a top level type, as in > "fontformat/postscript". However, I don't find it a convincing argument > by itself. > > Tony Hansen > > _______________________________________________ > apps-discuss mailing list > apps-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Graham Klyne
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