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Re: [apps-discuss] Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)

Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> Thu, 23 May 2013 22:13 UTC

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From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)
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On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>wrote:

> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
> wrote:
> > On May 23, 2013, at 11:35 AM, James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> That's well and good, from everything I've seen so far in this thread,
> >> the collective majority opinion can be summarized as "Ugh... Groan..
> >> Another one? Really?"
> >
> > Just a note that this is one of the only ones that people are groaning
> about that has an Internet Draft and might go through the IETF consensus
> process. Carsten and I (maybe naively) thought that doing this in this
> environment, instead of say posting ephemeral specs on a web page and not
> having it be clear where the community fit it, was a good thing.
>
> There's a huge world outside the IETF.  The folks working on Simple
> and BSON, to take two examples, may not care about bringing their work
> to us, but then, they may also be annoyed by our blindsiding them with
> a standards-track binary JSON (I know, CBOR's a superset) encoding
> that's not interoperable with theirs.
>
> In particular, if there's wide deployment of one of them, why
> shouldn't we pick one of them?
>
> Should we not invite the wider JSON community to this discussion?
>

BSON is the binary format used by MongoDB which is widely used in network
projects and especially Web-ish, JSON projects.

I don't particularly like their design choices but I don't find any of them
terrible.

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